Re: Computer access for the poor

Ronald J. Bartle (snuffy@berlin.snafu.de)
Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:08:25 +0100


Tom Boland wrote:
> 
> > Your right we do need to figure out a way the the poor and homeless
> >could get free access to computers and the internet.Possibley a series
> >of free public assess computer labs through out the nation....
> >Wandering Bear
> 
> Yes, Wandering Bear!  As Bonnie says "Accessability for all".  Surely,
> libraries, including those at publicly funded universites, ought to make
> Internet access available free to townspeople, including homeless people.
> 
> There are also hundreds of community computer access centers, expecially in
> North America and Europe. 


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Does anybody at all - know the address of one of these hundreds of
community computer access centers open to the public in or within 100ml
(in words: One Hundred Miles) of here - Berlin the capital of Germany?

I have been activly campaigning for suchlike from the local netzforum
all the way to the speakers radio mike at the European Commisions' xiii
dir - projects expert meetings on telematics applictions for - in my
case - the elderly and disabled.. without finding more than 2 often
disabled and at the weekends for instance 
non-resotable slowish win3.1 based terminals at http://www.dhm.de .. and
another at the 
"Ameriks Gedank Bibliotek"/American Rememberance Library which was back
then a gift of the us-american people to post wwII berlin ... where the
formal waiting list varies from 2hrs to 1 - 2 days for a 30 min session
using (at last check) win3.1 with a free trial version of the australian
winsock thingy and
version 2.1 of netscape nav.  If you see what I am getting at!?

So I will be truely happy and deeply thankfull for any - even vague tip
of there being a further - <less than leading edge> wobbely terminal
that a relative huge number - making a tiny tiny majority of privaliged
insiders get to use if they have time tenacity and perseverance - backed
up by a nod and a wink from Mercury the "ancient..." god of
communications.  "Mercury was at least not specifically and exclusevily
a 
Germanic _poderous propensity_ in the way that the present Christian
Democratic Government's policies - and with that the factive
astronomical timed and charged local call rates of the Deutsche Telekom
AG monopoly
(.. for LOCAL calls only now since 1.1.98!) is!

. .. by the way the roumour is that a total of 7 other private
households have one of these analoge
type g monopole permanent lines (simple 2 wire model) that are
relatively cheap at about 140US$ a month
- if onyl the d.telekom would stop "lost your application here in the
office again I am afraid!"
and then "the addedvalue service you claim is described on page 41 of
our general tarif and conditions of business document does not exist" or
"once again we have lost your application and this time your deposite
and all supporting documents and could you confirm that you are _really_
intending to take this matter to the higest instance of legal and
administrative apeal?!" etc etc.

- strange that after that rather supprising call from the front office
of the minister of telecommunications in bon about finally a fax having
been sent from there in the previous 5 mins. that it was THEN .. only a
matter of 21 mins before the d.tekom engineers arrived in my appt...
with the other truck having been at the isp office 7 mins before and a
total of only 51 mins before _we_ had fihured out the technical hickups
and the first analogue leased line into a disabled private citizens
appt. functioned at 28.800bps/pp in the
Berlin 44 working class district to make basis tele-promoted-democratic
history in may 1995 as a responce to formal prepaid application for this
"special commercial customer service" made in Nov. 1994.

see......!??

ron bartle


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Ron Bartle - Royal Air Force Veteran - Hobby Journalist - 24h wired Bed
& Breakfast in Berlin, Germany. http://www.snafu.de/~snuffy - 
snuffy@berlin.snafu.de +49.30.6884295