Re: Minorities more likely to do TIME

Mike Steindel (CLaw7MAn@webtv.net)
Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:37:03 -0800 (PST)


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Well Graeme as much as I agree with you I do not see any other
alternative than voting for change. I doubt that many people want to
stand in the streets hurling rocks at federal troops. The problem has
been apathy all along. Things don't change with voting because to few
people vote. They have this attitude that even if they do vote nothing
will happen, so they stay home and guess what there worst fears become
reality. But if they had all gone and voted things could have changed.
Defeatest attitudes only promote Defeat...The only statement that
staying home makes is "I'm Satisfied with things as they are" at least
in the eyes of those in control. On the other hand if you are enlisting
troops for a revolutionary army good luck cause if you can't motivate
people to vote do you really belive they will fight... mike


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November Coalition Forum --WebTV-Mail-1366662467-487 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (207.79.35.92) by postoffice-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:11:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id SAA06908; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #24133) id <01J7QTL2YXGW8YBCFK@asu.edu> for CLaw7MAn@webtv.net; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:12:31 MST Received: from smtp2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J7QTL1VOPC8YBD6U@asu.edu>; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:12:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from aspin.asu.edu (george.asu.edu [129.219.3.61]) by smtp2.asu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA27797; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by aspin.asu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-CKG 8/29/95) id TAA14766; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:11:23 -0700 Received: from icarus.idirect.com by aspin.asu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-CKG 8/29/95) id TAA14735; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:11:19 -0700 Received: from terminus.idirect.com (terminus.idirect.com [207.136.80.70]) by icarus.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22682 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from idirect.com (ts7-50t-4.idirect.com [209.161.245.99]) by terminus.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17572 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:11:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:10:49 -0500 From: Graeme Bacque Subject: Re: Minorities more likely to do TIME Sender: owner-hpn@aspin.asu.edu To: HPN Message-id: <36C78229.5F13F7AD@idirect.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) Content-type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_ZDDXjHVLbwtFbAZNsNE4CA)" Precedence: bulk X-Accept-Language: en References: <3565-36C779E0-1182@mailtod-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> --Boundary_(ID_ZDDXjHVLbwtFbAZNsNE4CA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mike Steindel wrote: > I just saw this again...Whats the deal with all these studies that > always come to the same conclusion. Instead of studying the problem > why > is it nothing is ever done to correct the wrong...It is wrong to treat > drug use with JAIL...I think these things have been studied to death > its > time to learn from our studies....People without money go to JAIL. Non > whites go to JAIL more often. Non whites without money always go to > JAIL, Guilty or Innocent....Those are what the results of almost all > the > studies have always found...Lets stop funding the studies and change > things for the better... Learn how you can register to vote... Go to > www.fec.gov because other than revolution "which is not gonna happen" > its the best way to make a difference....Here is the study.... > If voting is such a powerful tool for change, than how do you explain the nightmare scenario brought about by better than 220 years of 'ballot-box democracy' where every four years you get to mark an 'x' beside the name of the shyster/thief/mass killer/sexfiend/ego-freak of your choice, but are legally deprived of _any_ control over their actions for the ensuing four years? If voting is so wonderful then howcum 'elected representatives' can commit or oversee massive crimes against humanity for the entire length of their mandate, yet face no penalty afterwards aside from possible removal from office come the next ballot? The ballot-box system was created not to foster citizen involvement in decision-making, but as a deliberate means of _preventing_ it. As long as people continue to buy this illusion of 'democracy': and until people wise up and reclaim their natural, inalienable right to forge their own individual and collective destinies without having to rely on some 'representative' with an agenda (whether elected or otherwise) then none of us will be free. Ditch the politicians! Take back your power! -- ---------------------------------------------------- Graeme Bacque **************************************************** +++ Fighting 'mad' and proud of it! +++ ---------------------------------------------------- --Boundary_(ID_ZDDXjHVLbwtFbAZNsNE4CA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mike Steindel wrote:
I just saw this again...Whats the deal with all these studies that
always come to the same conclusion. Instead of studying the problem why
is it nothing is ever done to correct the wrong...It is wrong to treat
drug use with JAIL...I think these things have been studied to death its
time to learn from our studies....People without money go to JAIL. Non
whites go to JAIL more often. Non whites without money always go to
JAIL, Guilty or Innocent....Those are what the results of almost all the
studies have always found...Lets stop funding the studies and change
things for the better... Learn how you can register to vote... Go to
www.fec.gov  because other than revolution "which is not gonna happen"
its the best way to make a difference....Here is the study....

If voting is such a powerful tool for change, than how do you explain the nightmare scenario brought about by better than 220 years of 'ballot-box democracy' where every four years you get to mark an 'x' beside the name of the shyster/thief/mass killer/sexfiend/ego-freak of your choice, but are legally deprived of _any_ control over their actions for the ensuing four years?

If voting is so wonderful then howcum 'elected representatives' can commit or oversee massive crimes against humanity for the entire length of their mandate, yet face no penalty afterwards aside from possible removal from office come the next ballot?

The ballot-box system was created not to foster citizen involvement in decision-making, but as a deliberate means of _preventing_ it. As long as people continue to buy this illusion of 'democracy':  and until people wise up and reclaim their natural, inalienable right to forge their own individual and collective destinies without having to rely on some 'representative' with an agenda (whether elected or otherwise) then none of us will be free.

Ditch the politicians! Take back your power!

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