Merry Christmas to all and a better 2000 lets bomb them with e-mails

William Tinker (wtinker@fcgnetworks.net)
Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:45:23 -0500


12-24=99
I don,t care if you are a agnostic,a athesist,or a christian,the facts
remain that we must re invent the wheel or advocate for the displaced and
disabled untill all the politicians listen !!!

I don,t care if you are a billionaire or an actor if you,ve got view points
on resolving and helping out your fellow man for go for it....sooner or
later some one step up to the podium and tell us what we want, and have been
preaching for years"homelessness is not a crime" and it must be cured in
this life time not in another millenium!

Yes Jesus was homeless and its a sin for us to allow it to have continued on
as long as it has if every one makes a cocscience effort to write our
politicians we can change history; think about it put our egos to bed and
e-mail the hell out of them till they crack its time "American Homeless" and
"Canadian  Homeless"that you were treated with dignity and the respect you
deserve!!!

A Brother In Strife And In Peace "  Bill Tinker NHhomeless@egroups.com



> ... Homeless people are the beloved of God, and He is their Salvation.
> ... God holds them in the Palm of His Hand and receives their Souls
> ... when "giving in" and "giving up" becomes their experience.
> ... Every human being is precious to God--but especially those who are
> ... offended by mendacity and presumption, by commercialism and greed.
> ... It is by the Judgment of the Homeless that God convicts the world,
> ... of slaughter, of waste and of thoughtlessness.
> ... You are safer homeless than all the people in fine mansions.
> ... You are dealing with day-to-day existence REALLY, not at arm's length.
> ... You are calling out to God, and God is hearing you and
> ... You will be vindicated, and your future is bright--if not immediately
at
> present.
> ... Remember, Mary in the barn giving birth--despised by the upper
classes.
> ... God held that barn more sacred than all the sterile hospitals that
exist
> today.
> ... "You are a child of the Universe no less than the trees and the grass.
> ... You have a right to be here.
> ... And whether or not it is clear to you, NO DOUBT
> ... the Universe is unfolding as it should."
> ... Take heart this Christmas. You ARE precious to God and to the saints.
>
> --chaiyah the prophet
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> To: nhhomeless@egroups.com <nhhomeless@egroups.com>; emily cragg
> <mecragg@erols.com>
> Cc: Lilly Cote <lili@worldpath.net>
> Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 5:35 AM
> Subject: Fw: ALERT: LA Food Not Bombs ARRESTED - 2 press releases -
> pleaserepost FWD
>
>
> >Group I hope that this will bring attention to some of the homelessand
> >disheartened we must pool our talents and ignite a f;lame of
righteousness
> >under our political leaders to make them want to help,the displaced and
> >disabled poor of our country!
> >"A Brother In Peace And Strife" Bill Tinker
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tom Boland <wgcp@earthlink.net>
> >To: HOMELESS PEOPLE'S NETWORK list <HPN@aspin.asu.edu>; Rainbow Family
list
> ><gathering@cygnus.com>
> >Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 3:35 AM
> >Subject: *Re: ALERT: LA Food Not Bombs ARRESTED - 2 press releases -
> >pleaserepost FWD
> >
> >
> >> FWD to HPN with permission Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:43:10 PST
> >> CC Replies to author: "david grace" <dpgrace@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> [Sailor wrote on LA FNB's refusal to move it's food service to a more
> >> remote section of a park:]
> >> >---- It is particularly disturbing, especially during this holiday
> >season,
> >> >to see that FNB is putting its own political agenda ahead of the real
> >needs
> >> >of the hungry.  Hopefully someone with a little common sense will
> realize
> >> >it is not as important where you feed as it is that you do feed.
> >>
> >> [David replies:]
> >> I disagree with Sailor. I have never been to the site, but the
strategies
> >we
> >> put together in the past in San Francisco still have weight.
> >>
> >> There are two aspects of FNB in this case that need to added to the
> >> discussion.
> >>
> >> 1. Public distribution vs hidden.
> >> The homeless should know they should not feel ashamed to eat or in any
> >other
> >> aspect of their natural lives. What those with homes do in the quiet of
> >> walls; talking to selves, picking noses, eating, scratching their ass,
> >> drinking, dancing, cleaning their toes, folding their shirts, etc. are
> >along
> >> the lines of birthright and not to be renounced or revoked. When FnB
> moved
> >> to quiet, shady areas they found the public was even quicker to set the
> >dogs
> >> on us. It is safer to be public and active than herded and complacent.
> >>
> >> 2. Distribution as public gathering rather than solely food hand-out.
> >> The politics of food in almost every totalitarian regime has been on
the
> >> model of Bread and Circuses, a technique designed for the conquest of
> >Roman
> >> territories. The method is to give food with low nutritional content
but
> >> plenty of mass, so the eater will have a full belly but a slow mind and
> >weak
> >> body. FnB provides the best quality food in order to promote
> >clear-thinking,
> >> healthy citizens. We do not need to preach a party line to people who
can
> >> think clearly; they can think or study for themselves. Those who dine
> with
> >> us on a regular basis are proud to show their faces and take part in
> >social
> >> or political discourse, or sit alone and enjoy in peace. Public
> gatherings
> >> are a Constitutional right and the disenfranchised need to be reminded
> >they
> >> are still citizens and retain all their rights. If it is illegal to eat
> >now,
> >> what will come later? Hold fast to a standard.
> >>
> >> FnB does not serve in San Francisco on most feast holidays. On occasion
> >the
> >> group may decide to do one, but as a rule we don't want to waste food
> >while
> >> the poverty-pimps are getting all the donations, credit and TV
coverage.
> >We
> >> do the hard work the other 360 days of the year.
> >>
> >> As to the logistic of Pershing Park and the demographics of the
homeless
> >> there avoiding "normal" people, is so insulting and callous as to be
> >> degrading. The homeless are far more normal than people who spend 8 or
16
> >> hours a day in 'jobs' they can't stand, which pollute, con, insult and
> >> degrade the standards and ideals of any civilization. Most of the
> homeless
> >> origionate from the Savings and Loans scam of the '80's, either
directly
> >or
> >> indirectly. Those criminals robbed the U.S. and other nations blind,
and
> >we
> >> are still paying off that national debt with thirty-year bond-notes.
The
> >> cuts to social services are due to the bond frauds cities, counties and
> >the
> >> nation are stuck with. The prosecutors in government let these rats
walk
> >> with two trillion dollars, and they still demand more.
> >>
> >> The homeless are so normal that they once had respect for this country,
> >and
> >> once believed in it's principals. They did what it took to save their
> >homes
> >> from foreclosure by crooked banks, they fought like mad to keep two and
> >> three jobs to pay mortgages. They strived to save family breakups, and
> >> watching their kids lose respect for them because they were never home.
> >> Fifteen years ago the major magazines had plenty of articles on
> "latch-key
> >> kids." They don't write about them much any more, now they have gotten
to
> >be
> >> so big and the problem's so ugly. There was no money to help them then
> and
> >> there is no money now; all gone to pay off the S&L con artists.
> >>
> >> To say "... the homeless and hungry no longer congregate there."
ignores
> >the
> >> reality of homelessness. The homeless look just like you and me. I am
> >> noticable by the good quality of clothes I wear; usually from yard
sales.
> >> When I worked in the Financial District I was always surprised at the
> high
> >> number of faces I recognised in other offices who dined with us.
Elderly
> >> women living in their cars or in cheap hotel rooms but keeping the
> >> appearance of upper-class style. When I was in the insurance field five
> >> years ago about half of the insurance agents were in debt to the
"company
> >> store." They had to pay rent to the lead agent; paying for their desk,
> >> phone, paper supplies, kitchen privileges, the lobby secretary, etc.
> There
> >> were fewer and fewer of the public who could afford to buy insurance or
> >pay
> >> their premiums, and most of the agents lost money every month rather
than
> >> earning any. I would come in every week and find another face gone and
a
> >new
> >> sucker jumping in. While there a hot new Banking Law in the U.S.
Congress
> >> passed, allowing banks to merge with insurance companies. It was widely
> >> expected to cause the layoff of 1/3 of the employees of banking and
> >> insurance. Think that was bad? The Congress and Clinton just passed
> >another
> >> improved version last month, anticipated to fire another high
percentage.
> >> Those were considered to be high paying, dignified jobs, but many of
the
> >> agents were homeless or in crappy hotels around town; keeping clean
every
> >> day in case they got that good lead.
> >>
> >> Who are the homeless? Who are the normal? You and me. Take your
position
> >> with your eyes open.
> >>
> >> My Best,
> >> David Grace
> >>
> >> >Subject: Re: ALERT: LA Food Not Bombs ARRESTED - 2 press releases -
> >> >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:31:29 -0800 (PST)
> >> >
> >> >FWD  Non-member submission to HPN & FNB lists from "Sailor"
> ><X989@aol.com>
> >> >[Sailor is a frequent poster to the Rainbow Family list.]
> >> >
> >> >"Because a prime objective of Food Not Bombs' community meals is to
> raise
> >> >consciousness and to counter Los Angeles's "out of sight, out of mind"
> >> >policy towards the poor, the group deemed it unacceptable to be pushed
> to
> >> >the back of the park and continued to serve at their normal location."
> >> >
> >> >---- It is particularly disturbing, especially during this holiday
> >season,
> >> >to see that FNB is putting its own political agenda ahead of the real
> >needs
> >> >of the hungry.  Hopefully someone with a little common sense will
> realize
> >> >it is not as important where you feed as it is that you do feed.
> >> >
> >> >"Food Not Bombs member Phillip Salcido likened the current struggle to
> >> >historic civil rights struggles, "Just as Rosa Parks refused to move
to
> >the
> >> >back of the bus, the poor in Los Angeles are now refusing to move to
the
> >> >back of the park!"
> >> >
> >> >------ I'm afraid that FNB has missed this bus completely.  Since the
> ice
> >> >rink was built in Pershing Square, the homeless and hungry no longer
> >> >congregate there.  The reality is that it has less to do with private
> >> >security and park police than it does with the simple fact that the
> >hungry
> >> >and homeless don't feel comfortable hanging out with the large numbers
> of
> >> >"normal" citizens who now dominate park usage.  If the goal of FNB is
to
> >> >truly feed the hungry, they need to be flexible enough to follow the
> >> >patterns of the poor.  Again, it is sad to see political agenda
displace
> >a
> >> >needed service. Hopefully someone will get their head out of their
butt,
> >> >dis their ego and feed the folks who need food where those folks are
> most
> >> >comfortable congregating ---------- sailor
> >>
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