Re: Proposal: alt.homeless, alt.homeless.formerly, alt.homeless.newbies (fwd)

Virginia Sellner (
Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:53:00 -0800

Yes Anitra you always tell it like it is.  Thanks.   Virginia

At 02:47 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Anitra Again wrote:
>Forwarded from my post to the Homeless Discussion list.  Dan Myers has
>proposed the formation of new newsgroup(s).  this was my contribution
>to the discussion -- if anyone is confused by not having more quotes
>from Dan's post, please let me know.
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:44:32 -0800 (PST)
>From: Anitra Again <>
>Subject: Re: Proposal:  alt.homeless, alt.homeless.formerly,
>I support the idea of a newsgroup specifically for discussion of
>homelessness.  I am, like Daniel, unsure of what the prefix should be
>-- there are alt. newsgroups and soc. newsgroups -- we probably don't
>want to be a rec. newsgroup.
>I think that one newsgroup should be extablished initially,
>soc.homeless /or/ alt.homeless
>I believe this would build traffic and further discussion faster, as
>well as making it easier to handle the inevitable "trolls" (people who
>post to a newsgroup purely to cause uproar).  More newsgroups could
>'spin off' as needed.
>I disagree with Dan, as he already doubtless knows, that "formerly
>homeless" or "newly homeless" people belong off in their own private
>worlds.  When I was newly homeless, I benefitted greatly from
>experienced homeless women who advised me in safety and guided me to
>resources.  The period when I was homeless was also the period when I
>stabilized from lifelong manic-depression that had consistently
>disrupted personal and group relationships all my life.  I formed some
>of the closest relationships I had ever had during that period, and I
>still have them.  I now have housing, and a limited income.  The
>homeless community is still my community.  It always will be.  None of
>us can change the world, all by ourselves, but we can each make a
>difference if we tend to one square inch.  This is my inch.
>There are non-homeless people who can speak to anyone with respect for
>their human dignity, regardless of their socio-economic
>circumstances.  There are homeless people who can't.  The most
>fruitful discussion is going to come from caring people who are
>willing to experience the realities that they are talking about, and
>to actively listen to others -- fruitful discussion is not going to
>come from doing means testing.
>There is no truth that cannot be turned into a lie if you just :: 
>take it seriously enough. ~~ There is no lie that won't become :: 
>more dangerous if you just take it a little more seriously. ~~ :: 
>			  ~~ WRITE ON! ~~ Anitra L. Freeman ~~ ::

Virginia D. Sellner - Wyoming Coalition for the Homeless, P. O. Box 1232,
Cheyenne, WY 82003-1232,   email:    URL: