Tedrico's Page has been Updated (4/25)

Theodore Latham (tedrico@hotmail.com)
Sat, 25 Apr 1998 14:37:19 PDT

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Tedrico's Page Selected: Discussion Topic of the Week

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On Sun, 18 Apr 1998 14:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Fotheringham wrote:

Subject: Serving Food

At the end of the day, when I have returned to my home, the street, 
how much better off am I that you gave me a meal of cast off food. 
I am still on the street the next meal is a day away and there is 
only the street. You only feed me so that I will go another day in 
this hell and return to your trough where you feed me cast off food 
and then you go home and feel better for your offering to me. Even 
you fuck me!



On Sun, 18 Apr 1998 16:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Andrew Rose 
<arose@macromedia.com> replied:

When I read that serving people "fucks" people I feel confused 
and sad because the situation must be dire indeed if someone sees 
a gift of food given freely only when requested as disempowering 
and I want to know more about this and what would be a better way?

What would you rather people do, Fotheringham, if you they could 
hear you what would you say? How much better off are you for warm 
soup and somewhat fresh bagel? Would you rather steal or pick from 
a dumpster? Would your hell be lessened if there wasn't food? Why return 
to the trough if it keeps you in hell? Should people stop helping other 
people because it makes some feel dependent?

On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 00:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Tedrico Latham 
<tedrico@hotmail.com> remarked:

Welcome to the reality of the hard core street mentality! I saw 
alot of this mentality, in a lot of food handout lines, within 
many different cities during my homeless stretch! When life on the 
streets gets so bad for a person that they are critical and 
blameful of the hand that feeds them, don't take it personal!

Instead try to personally, befriend, console, and offer an extra serving 
to that person (of couse in privacy away from the eyes of others)! 
Eventually they will dump all of the repressed feelings 
and character defenses they have built up around them, for coping 
purposes, on you and then you will have won them over in the long 
run! Use a clever, yet concerned approach and you may find you have 
recruited an extra helping hand when serving time comes around! 
This is not my opinion, but my personal experience.

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:56:07 +0200 "Ronald J. Bartle" <snuffy@snafu.de> 

I guess that what one is seeing from the writter Fotheringham is 
a sence of the o v e r whealming need for housing .. which leaves 
one angry and saying "so what" when other help is given. Sure a 
decent meal is great - shure a counseling talk is helpful, etc.. 
what needs fixing is homelessness itself - and I can understand 
the undertone of anger comming from a person on the street .. when 
he sees well situated - housed folks - fixing bits of the problem here.. 
a portion of the problem there.. but the homelessness as 
such - goes right on as ever!?

On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:18:26 -0700 Charles Wilson 
<nternet@c2i2.com> responded:

The homeless and street people must be offered community along 
with the temporary supplies such as food and shelter. In a real 
human community, no one would be separated from these things in 
the first place. Too often the servers of food are saying, "We're 
with the "in" crowd, and you're with the "out" crowd; here we are 
offering a pitiful chance for you, too, to become a member of the 
"in" crowd."

What this misses is that the "in" crowd is an abomination for the 
totality of reasons and causes which is what a person learns with 
a liberal education, intelligence, spiritual depth and a wide 
living experience in various cultures.  And, yes, if you scratch 
the facade of some of these service gatekeepers, you will find the ones 
who want to fuck you, literally.

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:02:52 -0400 Thomas Cagle 
<nh-adapt@juno.com> added:

I am reacting to Fotheringham's angry admonishment of "Even you 
fuck me"! And if I have the sequence right, of Andrew's sincere 
(if unperceptive) "well what can I do"? reply.  In this setting 
the reply is being made by a volunteer. The missed part is still 
as fundamental. The helping person (or agency) does't really 
believe it.

Have you shared where the social service offices are? Pointed out 
to this citizen who you think is the most coherent or successful street 
person to model themselves by? Have you the skill to set 
aside an equally angry reply and asked any questions like you 
really think this guy should be able to find his own way home. Do 
you have any idea of what he see's as his own sovereign space? 


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