Re: serving food "gets the poor"

Ronald J. Bartle (
Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:56:07 +0200

I guess that what one is seeing from the writter Fotheringham is a sence
of the 
o v e r whealming need for housing .. which leaves one angry and saying
"so what" when other help is given.  The perception at street level must
be one of "If these people wanted to - and got r e a l y organized -
then they could fix this homlessness thing 
-total!- so anything less than that .. is viewed with some contempt. 

Shure a decent meal is great - shure a counselling talk is helpfull etc
etc.. what needs fixing is homelessness itself - and I can understand
the undertone of anger comming from a person on the street .. when he
sees well situated - housed folks - fixing bits of the problem here.. a
portion of the problem there.. but the homelessness as such - goes right
on as ever!?

No way do we wanna be discouraged by a reaction as seen here.  I feel it
is quite understandable - and simply an expression of the desperate need
for a real and if Heaven grants it - t o t a l move away from the type
of society which seems _content_ to simply leave some way behind or shut

ron b.

Andrew Rose wrote:
> >Where is your sense that FNB wants to "get the poor" coming from?  What are
> >you refering too?
> >
> >At the end of the day, when I have returned to my home, the street, how much
> >better off am I that you gave me a meal of cast off food.
> >I am still on the street the next meal is a day away and there is only the
> >street. You only feed me so that I will go another day in this hell and
> >return to your trough where you feed me cast off food and then you go home
> >and feel better for your offering to me. Even you fuck me!
> >
> >Fotheringham
> When I read that serving people "fucks" people I feel confused and sad
> because the situation must be dire indeed if someone sees a gift of food
> given freely only when requested as disempowering and I want to know more
> about this and what would be a better way?
> What would you rather people do, Fotheringham, if you they could hear you
> what would you say?
> more rhetoric:
> how much better off are you for warm soup and somewhat fresh bagel?
> would you rather steal or pick from a dumpster?
> Would your hell be lessened if there wasn't food?
> Why return to the trough if it keeps you in hell?
> Should people stop helping other people because it makes some feel dependent?

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