Re: homeless bums ought to work - your reply?

P. Myers (mpwr@u.washington.edu)
Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:58:46 -0700 (PDT)


SECOND *THAT, TEDRICO...GOOD WORDS, TOM...HOW ABOUT MORE???  PatMyers

On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Theodore Latham wrote:

> Tom,
> 
>    If I hadn't already given you a Voice of the Homeless Award, you'd 
> certainly deserve one for those powerful, inspiring, yet true, words!  I 
> still judge everyone, bums, hoodlum, crooks, and normal people, if there 
> are any! But like you, I do it person, by person! Nuff said!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tedrico Latham
> 
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> 
> Tom Boland <wgcp@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Virginia, thanks your reply on whether to tell panhandlers to get jobs.
> >Your answer seems from the heart and deeply informed.
> >
> >I sometimes give money to panhandlers I know, when I have a little 
> extra.
> >Ocasionally, I ask street friends for change myself.  These same
> >panhandlers give me change when I'm broke.  I don't feel guilty about
> >asking, partly because I helped set up an eight year old Sunday meal
> >program that feeds a bunch of them, me included.  Sharing's a part of 
> "bum
> >ways".
> >
> >If people don't want to work paid jobs, I pass no judgment on them.  
> They
> >may be helping their neighbors or themselves in ways I do not witness.  
> And
> >some paid jobs hurt the environment or harm people.  So I know I can't 
> be
> >certain of what's moral or useful for all individuals in all 
> circumstances.
> >
> >Streetpeople I see as the one subgroup of homeless folks that fewest 
> want
> >to help.  Personally, I love many "bums", as Steinbeck loved the "bums" 
> in
> >his novels.  Yet among them are theives I wouldn't let in my squat, and
> >assailants whom I avoid.  I still judge, I guess, but I judge person by
> >person.--Tom
> >
> >Virginia wrote:
> >>We dont live in a big city or Mayberry here either.  I do agree with 
> one
> >>thing the person wrote = and that is I do not want to support drug or
> >>alcohol habits either -- and mostly in Cheyenne when people ask for 
> money
> >>for food (which, by the way is available 3 times a day or more 
> everyday of
> >>the week, so you know that chances are they do not want it for food) 
> then
> >>whoever is approached usually offers to take them to a restaurant and 
> feed
> >>them -- which is fine if they really want food -- if they do not want 
> food
> >>then they turn it down and go on to the next person.  Here most of the 
> will
> >>work for food signs are phoney -- just wanting a handout and they do 
> not
> >>want it, in most cases, for food.  Offer them a job and see what kind 
> of
> >>excuses they come up with as to why they cannot take it -- We have 
> limited
> >>facilities as does everyone, but we do have food available -- for 
> travelers,
> >>for those staying around, and shelter if they want it -- In Cheyenne 
> if
> >>people want a job they can get one -- it might not be much, but it can 
> get
> >>you off the street if you use your money for food and shelter -- but 
> there
> >>are plenty of homeless people who are unable to work because of
> >>disabilities, mental illness, whatever.  Telling them to get a job 
> doesnt
> >>work either.  I hate to say the following, but in Cheyenne, which is 
> on 2
> >>interstates and 2 main Railroad lines, we see a lot of transients who 
> will
> >>be transients and without a regular place to stay forever, even with 
> the end
> >>of homelessness -- now lots of people will want to argue with that, 
> but it
> >>is true nonetheless, and a lot of these people do not want to do 
> anything
> >>but freeload -- they don't go by the old time hobo code or any other 
> code
> >>than the world owes them a living.  BUT they are in the minority -- 
> the
> >>freeloaders that is, and unfortunately they spoil everything for 
> everyone
> >>else by giving a bad name to the entire problem. If there had never 
> been
> >>food stamp abuse there would not need to be a cut back in food stams 
> for
> >>example.  Those guys who used to travel from state to state doing 
> nothing
> >>but collecting stamps for the most part can't do it anymore -- if a 
> few
> >>people were not abusing the system things would be available for all.  
> If a
> >>few people were not just bing bums then the name bum would not be 
> attached
> >>to homelessness.  I do somewhat agree with the person below because I 
> know
> >>that if someone wants or nees something in this town they can come by 
> it
> >>without creating problems panhandling, using phony reasons to get 
> things --
> >>the only persons I have actually given money to however, are the ones 
> who
> >>are honest and ask for money for booze -- the others I won't --  so I 
> guess
> >>I contradicted myself.
> >
> >
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