[Hpn] Re: [homelessness-poverty] America is becoming a Third World country-lack of Civil Rights

Larry E. Bigham 4freedom@ttc-cmc.net
Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:41:12 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time)


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Having been lucky enough all my life to have had enough to eat and a roof
over my head, altho one winter I found out why in a pasture there'll be t=
all
stands of grass horses won't eat under any circumstances (it tastes like
shit regardless of whether raw, with or without salad dressing or mayonna=
ise
 boiled, fried, whathaveyou) and seven chickens kept me in eggs, I've kno=
wn
more than just a few homeless and cannot for the life of me remember one
that way by choice.   For as long as I can remember I've heard that
capitalism is the only way to go, yet altho Wal Mart is the epitome of
capitalism it is held up as the worst thing to ever happen to the US and =
to
me that's about as hypocritical as it can get.  The definition of capital=
ism
has not one damn thing to do with unions and/or other restrictions and un=
til
they change the definition in Webster's Dictionary this'll be my attitude=
=2E =20
IMHO the Indians were doing just fine before we came along and brought th=
em=20
progress" and maybe we should be taking a closer look. =0D
 =0D
   If truth offends ya, don't bother lookin':=0D
"http://www.notgovernmentapproved.com"=0D
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 =0D
Subject: Re: [homelessness-poverty] America is becoming a Third World
country-lack of Civil Rights=0D
 =0D
Band-aids will Not Cure Poverty.=0D
By Jan LightfootLane=0D
 =0D
 As you may or may not  know, Hospitality House Inc. is a small Maine
non-profit  group working with other small national groups to end 100% of
poverty.   We have found all homelessness is due to Poverty.  We seek Car=
ing
people to assist us in getting out the news on HOW TO END POVERTY FOR ALL=
=2E  =0D
 =0D
End 100% of Poverty too 100% of the people is our motto.  $300. for each
person is but a band-aid to recession. Recession are caused by faulty ide=
as.=0D
 =0D
I have happily devoted 25 years of my life to ending the suffering of oth=
ers
in poverty.  Without effectively pointing out the root causes of poverty =
my
work is far from complete.  With your help Ideas can be improved.=0D
While programs are great when they work, the real cause of human lack are
our ideas. The =93Conservatives=94 believes the underpaid, are lazy, and =
of
immoral fiber.-If that were so there would be no working poor. Nationally
the working poor comprises 65% of all poor. Here in Maine it=92s close to=
 82%
of the underpaid are the working poor.=0D
Even the Progressives who pity us, and treat us like children as well
meaning as they are-they keep us silent unable to carry a word of the rea=
l
barriers ourselves.  We do not need handouts if simply everyone BELIEVED
it=92s fair to pay all workers the real cost of living. These supplementa=
l aid
are aimed at providing partial aid.  =0D
In time of state or Federal budget shortfall, when the numbers of the poo=
r
increase, handouts or programs are the first to be considered to be cut. =
=0D
 One can not even aim for wiping out a whopping  50% of poverty, and be
aiming at the cause of poverty.  Yes I am radical or basic enough to aim =
for
100% of all poverty being erased.  We would have to admit it=92s the idea=
 that
it=92s just fine to pay people working as hard as they can, not enough to=
 pay
the inflated rent price.   =0D
Hospitality House Inc. is focusing on a better format of pay.   It  is
calling for a spiritual format of pay.  One where 80% of ones pay to cove=
r
the essentials 10% for saving, and 10% of the weekly income for recreatio=
n,
hobbies, and vacation.   =0D
 I believe in the Universal Declaration of Economic stability, created by
the United Nations and passed by many counties in 1947.  That everyone wh=
o
works should earn a decent wage.  And the USA President Carter signed Oct
30th 1977.  That is enough for all the bills, enough to save, and enough =
for
a vacation. That is the religious format of paying workers.=0D
As someone in poverty, as someone working statewide with the homeless, fo=
r
25 years, I say costs and profits must remain stable, for this =93decent =
wage=94
to work.  And we must focus not upon band-aids for some, but upon a real
solution for 95% to 100%.=0D
In the past time of Budget Shortfall 1993 the then welfare director, wrot=
e
to the Members of Appropriations & Human Resource Committee. For the actu=
al
need of $873.00 a month, we pay only $468. In the best case scenario of t=
his
household being eligible for 203 in food stamps, and $399.00 in AFDC spec=
ial
needs plus $69.00 in General Assistance =96this family falls $202.00 shor=
t of
their basic survival necessities. This caring person wrote not just as th=
e
Officer of Millinocket but as the state of  "Maine Welfare Directors
Association. " =0D
The average rent at that point of 1993 was figured at $348.00. Today  in
2008, rents are about $600.00 and more. Only GA and Food stamps remain th=
e
same.=0D
As I said in the March Hospitality House meeting, To begin this effective
campaign we need  between the $5,000 and $10,000 a month required for
getting the word out on how broken is our America aid system.  We start w=
ith
this informative letter and the hopes that our friends will contribute
what-ever they can.=0D
 A workable solution to poverty is:=0D
 1) Have a forum from which the underpaid can speak, and exchange an open
debate.  A Free expression forum in newspapers and on Internet. Speaking
freely was an aim of Americas founding fathers. NO Censorship of ideas wo=
uld
be the principal of this goal.=0D
2) Have a decent wage. Workers should no longer work for a pay rate of 1/=
2
of their needs.   When a decent wage is $20. an hour stores and other
employers should not pay $8.50.  Decent wage is 80% of pay rate after tax=
es
covers  the essentials . 10% is for saving, and the last 10% is for vacat=
ion
 or recreation., along with unexpected emergencies.=0D
3) People of all races,  and incomes can enjoy their civil rights, as the
right the poor has, to be told the truth about Town relief by trusted
officials.=0D
Please past on this request to make people aware of the problem, post thi=
s
where-ever you can, in churches, schools, clubs, etc. Need Volunteers, we=
b
genious,  media to tell our stories, as well as cash to advertise.=0D
 =0D
Hospitality House Inc. will End Poverty,in Maine, then that model can be
carried to other groups.  We need to get out the word how to cure 100% of
poverty, both nationally as well as in Maine. =0D
 =0D
Besides living 50 out of 57 years in poverty , and being homeless as a ki=
d
and an adult, I have read many books and empirical articles on poverty,
class etc. I have a copy of a 1600 century English law saying the =93Dese=
rving
poor need help while those who create their own problem deserves jail.=94=
=20
This indicates the attitudes against the under-paid, have not changed.=0D
It matters little to the hungry if they are called the Poor, the low-inco=
me,
on the breadline, or the destitute or impoverished.  The name is immateri=
al
when ones belly gnarls with hunger pains.  I was born into the class of t=
he
hungry. I feel more comfortable in a soup kitchen being with the clients
then the workers. But often I am given a choice.  =0D
 =0D
When I sit with staffers of a soup kitchen, I learn the servers mostly ar=
e=20
for lack of better words =93sucking up to god,=94 while treating the unde=
rpaid
as either Dumb or Lazy .  Not all but some servers make themselves feel
important by handing out scrapes of food to the underpaid.  Many servers
pity the poor, and some only blame the poor.  Few see=92s the poor as
themselves, but for the grace of god. If they or their husband lacked a g=
ood
job they also might be forced to eat at a soup kitchen. =0D
 I learn from the Soup Kitchen eaters, they have the same dreams as someo=
ne
who makes $50,000 a year. They want the best for their kids. They want to
contribute to the community.  But most of their efforts is placed into
survival mode.=0D
It is our Ideas which mires a large percentage of Maine workers in povert=
y.=20
In Maine 85% of the Poor are the working poor.   As a nation we must beli=
eve
that pay rates, TANF, SSI should all reflect the real prices to live.  Th=
is
is an UNTRIED Idea, which its time has arrived. To try the same solution
expecting different results is how some define insanity.  It is time for =
an
UNTRIED Solution. 1) Listen to the voices of the Poor. 2) Pay everyone a
decent wage. 3) Make Civil Rights more than an empty promise.=0D
 =0D
Jan LightfootLane=0D
http://hospitalityhouseofmaine.org/=0D
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<DIV>Having been lucky enough all my life to have had enough to eat and a=
 roof over my head, altho one winter I found out why in a pasture there'l=
l be tall stands of grass horses won't eat under any circumstances (it ta=
stes like shit regardless of whether raw, with or without salad dressing =
or mayonnaise,&nbsp;boiled, fried, whathaveyou) and seven chickens kept m=
e in eggs, I've known more than just a few homeless and cannot for the li=
fe of me remember one that way by choice.&nbsp;&nbsp; For as long as I ca=
n remember I've heard that capitalism is the only way to go, yet altho&nb=
sp;Wal Mart is the epitome of&nbsp;capitalism&nbsp;it&nbsp;is held up as =
the worst thing to ever happen to the US and to me that's about as hypocr=
itical as it can get.&nbsp; The definition of capitalism has not one damn=
 thing to do with unions and/or other restrictions and until they change =
the definition in Webster's Dictionary&nbsp;this'll be my attitude.&nbsp;=
&nbsp; IMHO the Indians were doing just fine before we came along and bro=
ught them <FONT size=3D5><STRONG><EM><U>"progress"</U></EM></STRONG></FON=
T><FONT size=3D3>&nbsp;and maybe we should be taking a closer look.&nbsp;=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [home=
lessness-poverty] America is becoming a Third World country-lack of Civil=
 Rights</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Band-aids will Not Cure Poverty.<BR>By Jan LightfootLane<BR>&nbsp;<B=
R>&nbsp;As you may or may not&nbsp; know, Hospitality House Inc. is a sma=
ll Maine non-profit&nbsp; group working with other small national groups =
to end 100% of poverty.&nbsp;&nbsp; We have found all homelessness is due=
 to Poverty.&nbsp; We seek Caring people to assist us in getting out the =
news on HOW TO END POVERTY FOR ALL.&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;<BR>End 100% of Pover=
ty too 100% of the people is our motto.&nbsp; $300. for each person is bu=
t a band-aid to recession. Recession are caused by faulty ideas.<BR>&nbsp=
;<BR>I have happily devoted 25 years of my life to ending the suffering o=
f others in poverty.&nbsp; Without effectively pointing out the root caus=
es of poverty my work is far from complete.&nbsp; With your help Ideas ca=
n be improved.<BR>While programs are great when they work, the real cause=
 of human lack are our ideas. The =93Conservatives=94 believes the underp=
aid, are lazy, and of immoral fiber.-If that were so there would be no wo=
rking poor. Nationally the working poor comprises 65% of all poor. Here i=
n Maine it=92s close to 82% of the underpaid are the working poor.<BR>Eve=
n the Progressives who pity us, and treat us like children as well meanin=
g as they are-they keep us silent unable to carry a word of the real barr=
iers ourselves.&nbsp; We do not need handouts if simply everyone BELIEVED=
 it=92s fair to pay all workers the real cost of living. These supplement=
al aid are aimed at providing partial aid.&nbsp; <BR>In time of state or =
Federal budget shortfall, when the numbers of the poor increase, handouts=
 or programs are the first to be considered to be cut. <BR>&nbsp;One can =
not even aim for wiping out a whopping&nbsp; 50% of poverty, and be aimin=
g at the cause of poverty.&nbsp; Yes I am radical or basic enough to aim =
for 100% of all poverty being erased.&nbsp; We would have to admit it=92s=
 the idea that it=92s just fine to pay people working as hard as they can=
, not enough to pay the inflated rent price.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Hospitality =
House Inc. is focusing on a better format of pay.&nbsp;&nbsp; It&nbsp; is=
 calling for a spiritual format of pay.&nbsp; One where 80% of ones pay t=
o cover the essentials 10% for saving, and 10% of the weekly income for r=
ecreation, hobbies, and vacation.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;I believe in the =
Universal Declaration of Economic stability, created by the United Nation=
s and passed by many counties in 1947.&nbsp; That everyone who works shou=
ld earn a decent wage.&nbsp; And the USA President Carter signed Oct 30th=
 1977.&nbsp; That is enough for all the bills, enough to save, and enough=
 for a vacation. That is the religious format of paying workers.<BR>As so=
meone in poverty, as someone working statewide with the homeless, for 25 =
years, I say costs and profits must remain stable, for this =93decent wag=
e=94 to work.&nbsp; And we must focus not upon band-aids for some, but up=
on a real solution for 95% to 100%.<BR>In the past time of Budget Shortfa=
ll 1993 the then welfare director, wrote to the Members of Appropriations=
 &amp; Human Resource Committee. For the actual need of $873.00 a month, =
we pay only $468. In the best case scenario of this household being eligi=
ble for 203 in food stamps, and $399.00 in AFDC special needs plus $69.00=
 in General Assistance =96this family falls $202.00 short of their basic =
survival necessities. This caring person wrote not just as the Officer of=
 Millinocket but as the state of&nbsp; "Maine Welfare Directors Associati=
on. " <BR>The average rent at that point of 1993 was figured at $348.00. =
Today&nbsp; in 2008, rents are about $600.00 and more. Only GA and Food s=
tamps remain the same.<BR>As I said in the March Hospitality House meetin=
g, To begin this effective campaign we need&nbsp; between the $5,000 and =
$10,000 a month required for getting the word out on how broken is our Am=
erica aid system.&nbsp; We start with this informative letter and the hop=
es that our friends will contribute what-ever they can.<BR>&nbsp;A workab=
le solution to poverty is:<BR>&nbsp;1) Have a forum from which the underp=
aid can speak, and exchange an open debate.&nbsp; A Free expression forum=
 in newspapers and on Internet. Speaking freely was an aim of Americas fo=
unding fathers. NO Censorship of ideas would be the principal of this goa=
l.<BR>2) Have a decent wage. Workers should no longer work for a pay rate=
 of 1/2 of their needs.&nbsp;&nbsp; When a decent wage is $20. an hour st=
ores and other employers should not pay $8.50.&nbsp; Decent wage is 80% o=
f pay rate after taxes covers&nbsp; the essentials . 10% is for saving, a=
nd the last 10% is for vacation, or recreation., along with unexpected em=
ergencies.<BR>3) People of all races,&nbsp; and incomes can enjoy their c=
ivil rights, as the right the poor has, to be told the truth about Town r=
elief by trusted officials.<BR>Please past on this request to make people=
 aware of the problem, post this where-ever you can, in churches, schools=
, clubs, etc. Need Volunteers, web genious,&nbsp; media to tell our stori=
es, as well as cash to advertise.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Hospitality House Inc. wil=
l End Poverty,in Maine, then that model can be carried to other groups.&n=
bsp; We need to get out the word how to cure 100% of poverty, both nation=
ally as well as in Maine. <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Besides living 50 out of 57 years=
 in poverty , and being homeless as a kid and an adult, I have read many =
books and empirical articles on poverty, class etc. I have a copy of a 16=
00 century English law saying the =93Deserving poor need help while those=
 who create their own problem deserves jail.=94&nbsp; This indicates the =
attitudes against the under-paid, have not changed.<BR>It matters little =
to the hungry if they are called the Poor, the low-income, on the breadli=
ne, or the destitute or impoverished.&nbsp; The name is immaterial when o=
nes belly gnarls with hunger pains.&nbsp; I was born into the class of th=
e hungry. I feel more comfortable in a soup kitchen being with the client=
s then the workers. But often I am given a choice.&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;<BR>Wh=
en I sit with staffers of a soup kitchen, I learn the servers mostly are&=
nbsp; for lack of better words =93sucking up to god,=94 while treating th=
e underpaid as either Dumb or Lazy .&nbsp; Not all but some servers make =
themselves feel important by handing out scrapes of food to the underpaid=
=2E&nbsp; Many servers pity the poor, and some only blame the poor.&nbsp;=
 Few see=92s the poor as themselves, but for the grace of god. If they or=
 their husband lacked a good job they also might be forced to eat at a so=
up kitchen. <BR>&nbsp;I learn from the Soup Kitchen eaters, they have the=
 same dreams as someone who makes $50,000 a year. They want the best for =
their kids. They want to contribute to the community.&nbsp; But most of t=
heir efforts is placed into survival mode.<BR>It is our Ideas which mires=
 a large percentage of Maine workers in poverty.&nbsp; In Maine 85% of th=
e Poor are the working poor.&nbsp;&nbsp; As a nation we must believe that=
 pay rates, TANF, SSI should all reflect the real prices to live.&nbsp; T=
his is an UNTRIED Idea, which its time has arrived. To try the same solut=
ion expecting different results is how some define insanity.&nbsp; It is =
time for an UNTRIED Solution. 1) Listen to the voices of the Poor. 2) Pay=
 everyone a decent wage. 3) Make Civil Rights more than an empty promise.=
<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Jan LightfootLane<BR><A href=3D"http://hospitalityhouseofma=
ine.org/">http://hospitalityhouseofmaine.org/</A></DIV>
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