[Hpn] RE:Concord Homeless man loses battle with alcoholism

William C. Tinker wtinker@verizon.net
Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:01:18 -0500


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From:ruben@blazingstar.org

If media focused on a homeless man's battle with cancer, much more =
sympathy would be headed his way not only while the individual was =
homeless but beforehand, to the extent that man might have died inside a =
nice warm home or hospital rather than of hypothermia outside in the =
snow.=20

Your proposed social science "model" is crafted to complicate what is =
quite simple, however. You could argue for years about "what are =
believed to be inappropriate circumstances" versus blaming the victims =
of alcoholism and other drug-related diseases for their own problems; or =
you could attack these and related problems head-on, full-speed ahead. =
Your model suggests it might be okay to let all those "drunks and =
druggies" die on the streets? I for one will not waste my time on that =
fascist conclusion.

Why waste time pretending we need another hundred-thousand studies about =
alcoholism and other drug addictions before drawing any conclusions =
about what are and aren't "inappropriate circumstances" when homeless =
and housed men, women and children are dying needlessly every damn day =
for no good reason whatsoever? It's quite simple; if even half the U.S. =
tax dollars being spent on warfare were spent on ensuring all Americans =
receive all the assistance they need to attain and maintain a decent =
standard of living -- including a good education, affordable housing, =
jobs, healthcare, food and nutrition -- we wouldn't be seeing so many =
people dying on the streets for any reason at all.

But you see: solving the problem(s) I am talking about causes the rich =
and well-to-do to lose some of the trillions they have already stolen =
from the working poor, and some of the billions more they have stolen =
from the middle class, too. So throw up a "model" like a roadblock or =
dam to stop the truth from rushing into arena where every damned lie is =
a good enough lie for them so long as we get nowhere fast; so hurry up =
and wait, will you?=20

And take your political and social model with you, would you please. =
It's part of the problem, don't you know; you can tell a tree by its =
fruit. Politicians and social scientists are deeply involved in this =
inhumanity in the first place.



Chris Collier chriscollier@roadrunner.com wrote:
  All,
  =20
  The model, political and social, used to solve what are believed to be =
inappropriate circumstances is to look at the problem and ask for a =
solution. It's presented like this: the garbage workers are going on =
strike tomorrow because earning $5.00 an hour is not enough to support a =
family, how would you avert a strike tomorrow? Using that model what =
solution would you propose?
  =20
  If the model used to resolve inappropriate political and social =
circumstances asked you to look at the problem then the cause of the =
problem before proposing a solution to the problem it might look like =
this: the garbage workers are going on strike tomorrow because earning =
$5.00 an hour is not enough to support a family; what are the =
ramifications to those directly affected,  and how does that impact our =
society as a whole if allowed to remain unaddressed? Based on that =
information how would you avert a strike tomorrow and what needs to =
change in order to address the negative impact on society in a =
sustainable fashion? Using that model what solution would you propose?
  =20
  Part of what needs to be addressed in proposing any sustainable =
solution is how we think. Would these headlines have made a difference =
in how the individual was perceived, thereby giving a different meaning =
to our story, "Homeless man loses battle to cancer!" As the individual =
responding noted the 'responsibility' of those involved can be narrowed =
by the different categories we apply in our search for meaning.=20
  =20
  Chris













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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From:<A=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If&nbsp;media focused on a homeless man's battle with cancer, much =
more=20
sympathy would be headed his way not only while the individual was =
homeless but=20
beforehand, to the extent that man might have died inside a nice warm =
home=20
or&nbsp;hospital rather than of hypothermia outside in the snow. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Your proposed&nbsp;social science&nbsp;"model" is crafted to =
complicate=20
what is quite simple, however. You could argue for years about "what are =

believed to be inappropriate circumstances" versus blaming the victims =
of=20
alcoholism and other drug-related diseases&nbsp;for their own problems; =
or you=20
could attack&nbsp;these and related&nbsp;problems head-on, full-speed =
ahead.=20
Your model suggests it might be okay to let all those "drunks and =
druggies" die=20
on the streets? I for one will not waste my time on that fascist=20
conclusion.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Why waste time pretending we need another hundred-thousand studies =
about=20
alcoholism and other drug addictions before drawing any conclusions =
about what=20
are and aren't "inappropriate circumstances" when homeless and housed =
men, women=20
and children are dying needlessly every damn day for no good reason =
whatsoever?=20
It's quite simple; if even half the U.S. tax dollars being spent on =
warfare were=20
spent on ensuring all Americans receive all the assistance they need to =
attain=20
and maintain a decent standard of living -- including a good education,=20
affordable housing, jobs, healthcare, food and nutrition -- we wouldn't =
be=20
seeing so many people dying on the streets for any reason at all.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But you see: solving the problem(s) I am talking about causes the =
rich and=20
well-to-do to lose some of the trillions they have already stolen from =
the=20
working poor, and some of the billions more they have stolen from the =
middle=20
class, too. So throw up a "model" like a roadblock or dam to stop the =
truth from=20
rushing into arena where every damned lie is a good enough lie for them =
so long=20
as we get nowhere fast; so hurry up and wait, will you? </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>And take your political and social model with you, would you =
please. It's=20
part of the problem, don't you know; you can tell a tree by its fruit.=20
Politicians and social scientists are&nbsp;deeply involved in&nbsp;this=20
inhumanity in the first place.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Chris Collier <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chriscollier@roadrunner.com">chriscollier@roadrunner.com</=
A></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>The model, political and social, used to solve =
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going on=20
  strike tomorrow because earning $5.00 an hour is not enough to support =
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  family, how would you avert a strike tomorrow? Using that model what =
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  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>If the model used to resolve inappropriate =
political and=20
  social circumstances asked you to look at the problem then the cause =
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  problem before proposing a solution to the problem it might look like =
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  the garbage workers are going on strike tomorrow because earning $5.00 =
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  is not enough to support a family; what are the ramifications to those =

  directly affected, &nbsp;and how does that impact our society as a =
whole if=20
  allowed to remain unaddressed? Based on that information how would you =
avert a=20
  strike tomorrow and what needs to change in order to address the =
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  impact on society in a sustainable fashion? Using that model what =
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  <DIV class=3DMsoNormal>Part of what needs to be addressed in proposing =
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different=20
  meaning to our story, =93Homeless man loses battle to cancer!=94 As =
the individual=20
  responding noted the =91responsibility=92 of those involved can be =
narrowed by the=20
  different categories we apply in our search for meaning. =
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