[Hpn] Fwd: Day 4 Inquest - November 20. Will they see their "home"?

Graeme Bacque gbacque@colosseum.com
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Subject: 	Day 4 Inquest - November 20. Will they see their "home"?
Date: 	Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:09:08 -0500
From: 	Cathy Crowe <cathy.crowe@sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: 	Cathy Crowe <cathy.crowe@sympatico.ca>
Organization: 	TDRC
To: 	tdrcoffice <tdrc@tdrc.net>



Will the jury see their "home"?
 
Continuation of evidence from one of the doctors who attended Mr. T, 
 who was a witness to the "Do Not Resuscitate" order (DNR) discussion. 
Also, the doctor who "pronounced" Mr. T deceased testified.
 
The issue of a walking tour of hostels and drop-ins became the main 
discussion of the afternoon after the jury was dismissed at noon 
because Crown Attorney Bev Brown was not prepared to pursue calling one 
of their witnesses Dr. Barbara Yaffe of the Toronto Public Health.
 
Street Nurses Cathy Crowe and Kathy Hardill had prepared guidelines for 
a proposed walking tour, or a
"Homeless 101" for jury members. Both have extensive experience in the 
area of homelessness, tours of this kind, and were prepared to be 
factual and respective of the wishes of the court. It is common in 
inquests that a jury might have a "viewing" of a site(s) related to the 
death.
 
The Crown Attorney hotly contended that a walking tour could intrude on 
the confidentiality of the residents of shelters. She even went as far 
as to refer to shelters as "their home". Further, she contended that the 
tour would be uncontrollable and visual images such as pictures could 
replace an actual visit to sites.
 
Tuberculosis Action Group's (TBAG) lawyer Peter Rosenthal pointed out 
that if all lawyers for groups/individuals could have co-operated in a 
meeting to work out concerns related to the proposed tour TBAG 
representatives would have been open to make concessions.
 
Coroner Dr. Edwards will rule on whether there will be a walking tour 
Friday morning at 9:30. On TBAG's part we are concerned that the jury 
may not get a vivid view of the crowded conditions that many homeless 
people face. We wait for our answer. In other words will the jury get a 
chance to view what the coroner refers to as "their home". 
 
Friday - Day 5 anticipated decision and Toronto Public Health staff on 
the witness stand.
9:30 to 4:30
Please come out!!!
 
 
 Check out our web site for the latest issue of the National Disaster 
Post and recent reports: The Shelter Inspection Report and TB or not TB. 
There is no question.
www.tdrc.net <http://www.tdrc.net>
 
Cathy Crowe, RN
cathy.crowe@sympatico.ca <mailto:cathy.crowe@sympatico.ca>
416-703-8482 (117)

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<div><strong><font face="Arial" size="4">Will&nbsp;the jury see their "home"?</font></strong></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">Continuation of evidence from one of the
doctors who attended Mr. T, &nbsp;who was a witness to the "Do Not
Resuscitate" order (DNR) discussion. Also, the doctor who "pronounced"
Mr. T&nbsp;deceased testified.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">The issue of a walking tour of hostels and
drop-ins became the main discussion of the afternoon after the jury was
dismissed at noon because&nbsp;Crown Attorney Bev Brown was not prepared to
pursue calling one of their witnesses Dr. Barbara Yaffe of the Toronto
Public Health.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">Street Nurses Cathy Crowe and Kathy Hardill had
prepared guidelines for a proposed walking tour, or a <br>
"Homeless 101" for jury members. Both have extensive experience in the
area of homelessness, tours of this kind, and were prepared to be
factual and respective of the wishes of the court. It is common in
inquests that a jury might have a "viewing" of a site(s) related to the
death.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">The Crown Attorney hotly contended that a
walking tour could intrude on the confidentiality of the residents of
shelters. She even went as far as to refer to shelters as "their home".
Further, she contended that the tour would be uncontrollable and visual
images such as pictures could replace an actual visit to sites.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">Tuberculosis Action Group's (TBAG) lawyer Peter
Rosenthal pointed out that if all lawyers for groups/individuals could
have co-operated in a meeting to work out concerns related to the
proposed tour TBAG representatives&nbsp;would have been&nbsp;open to
make&nbsp;concessions.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial">Coroner Dr. Edwards will rule on whether there
will be a walking tour Friday morning at 9:30. On TBAG's part we are
concerned that the jury may not get a vivid view of the crowded
conditions that many homeless people face. We wait for our answer. In
other words will the jury get a chance to view what the coroner refers
to as "their home".&nbsp; </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Friday - Day 5 anticipated decision and
Toronto Public Health staff on the witness stand.</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">9:30 to 4:30</font></strong></div>
<div><strong><font face="Arial">Please come out!!!</font></strong></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">&nbsp;Check out our web site for the latest
issue of the National Disaster Post and recent reports: The Shelter
Inspection Report and TB or not TB. There is no question.<br>
<a href="http://www.tdrc.net">www.tdrc.net</a></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Cathy Crowe, RN<br>
<a href="mailto:cathy.crowe@sympatico.ca">cathy.crowe@sympatico.ca</a><br>
416-703-8482 (117) </font></div>
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