[Hpn] These men are "scum" and they have got away with and done this for years!!

William Tinker wtinker@metrocast.net
Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:18:09 -0400

Brothers And Sisters,

To steal from the disabled,homeless and poor is a much greater crime than it
and this is only the tip of the iceberg here.

This same shelter New Horizons has been operated by ex-police and their
cronies for years and they have allowed some decent  people to die in exteme
weather conditions,I know as I attended a couple of their funerals so please
when you say you do not share my outrage than your not paying attention!

Poverty pimps come and poverty pimps go but we need to be watch dogs for
abuses to our brothers and sisters because that food was meant to be used in
the shelter,I understand canned goods got a shelf life of 3-5 years I do not
think this was headed for any dumpster,there was profiteering going on
here,lets call  a DUCK a DUCK!

At any rate thanks for the history lesson on what you do with your surplus
food, I think any store donors hearing about this will now cut back on
giving out day old bread and pastries because they will now figure its going
to get dumped or thrown away any how.

A Brother In The Struggle
Bill aka Tink

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jamieandjoe@mutualaid.org>
These men are "scum" and they have got away with and done this for years!!

 Ok, I know I'll take flack for it but I don't share your outrage about
this. This often happens in kitchens which recieve too many donations to
be able to use the food before it needs to be thrown out. It often is
the following choice- pass the food on to another place that will give
it to people who need it OR THROW IT OUT as putrified garbage when it
rots in the soup kitchens pantry. Which do you prefer- food to be eaten
mostly by those who would go hungry or food to go bad and become part of
a land fill? Nothing I have seen about these two has yet to make me
think that this is anything different. I have seen no claims that they
profited from it.[ Which WOULD BE outragous and contemptable! Just as
contemptable as the poverty pimpdom of so many of these soup kitchens
and shelters and other "service" programs!]
I am homeless currently.  When I had a home, I volenteered at a soup
kitchen. We regularly got too many of some items. It wouldn't fit in the
pantry and the poverty pimp part of the soup kitchen wouldn't give out
"extra' to its "clients". We would then informaly and "off the
books"[though with the knowledge if not EXPICIT permission of the person
who recived a fat salery from the soup kitchen- it saved on dumpster
fees.]give it to other programs that needed it or distributed it to the
hungry in the park ourselves. Because if we didn't, it would be put
{often immediately] in the dumpster. I believe we did the right thing.
And would do it again when faced with the same choice! Certainly the
homeless and poor who got some food from us seemed to think so. But if I
was in Manchester maybe I would be arrested. So go on - condemn me if
you will but I would advise you to save your outrage for the real bad
guys- the poverty pimps and the rich.   solidarity Bork

 July 15, 2003

Two admit guilt in
charity food theft
Union Leader Staff

MANCHESTER, NH- Two former volunteers at New Horizons soup kitchen and food
pantry have pleaded guilty to giving food meant for the hungry and
homeless to a Manchester social club.
William Egan, 70, of 1 Carpenter St., Hooksett, a former Manchester police
officer, and Robert St. Onge, 68, of 59 Varney St., Manchester, pleaded
guilty to misdemeanor theft charges Friday in Manchester District Court.