[Hpn] floating hostels

W.C.Tinker wtinker@metrocast.net
Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:08:28 -0500


Joe,and Hpn...Sorry about the dud send!

Joe you make more sense than some of them poli-ticks we got playing at
running this country.

If money is the issue why don,t  some of them  self righteous millionaires
like Bill Gates come forward and do a communuty service conscience gift of
unspecified amount toward refurbishing some of these empty buildings for
safe housing for people needing a warm place and place to rest from the
storm.

Personally I believe involuntary homelessness could  be ended in 5 years if
the homeless persons had a budget similar to Pine Street Inn Boston Ma. of
30 million a year.

I see a lot of money put into grants for transient housing that could be
better used for affordable permanent housing.

Think of the war budget 40 plus billion blown away in Afghanistan already
,my GOD what we could have done to end homelessness with a budget like that?

A Brother In The Struggle
Bill
www.pagerealm.com/wtinker/index.html

From: "joe reynolds" <jos_reyn@yahoo.com>
To: "HPN" <hpn@lists.is.asu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: [Hpn] floating hostels


> Don't know sounds like almost everyone considers this
> to be more of a problem than a help. While I can see a
> limited usefulness to the idea aren't there enough
> empty buildings in every city and town already? And
> while they might have barbershops and all that why
> shouldn't the local barbers getthe chance to do this
> anyway and keep some money in the local economy.
> Besides this isn't to far from building a ghetto for
> the "unwanted" - out of sight, out of mind! They don't
> see use so problem solved as far as they are
> concerned. Health problems and accessability are a
> concern also. Besides if the cities are claiming they
> can't afford to have afffordable housing even when
> unsubsidized how the hwell are they going to pay
> dockage fees? Do you know how much a liner is chaged
> for just being at dock each day? Makes airport fees
> seem insignificant and god help you if you need
> services like having the water system cleaned or the
> valves replaced in the waste water system!
>   In the end would still be temporary shelter all of
> which only works temporarily. We need jobs - hell the
> whole country needs jobs! Jobs with decent livable
> wages will solve much of the problem. Hell if I and
> otheres had such not only would we have our own place
> but also what we would be buying would provide
> ewmployment opportunities. Unfortunately American
> business not interested in having employees hping to
> make a killing by IPOs and such stock manipulation. I
> think the reason why they want to nraid - I mean
> "privatize" Social Security isn't just because there
> is money ther but because they really, really need it
> as the house of cards is starting to collapse. Local
> Californian economy despite all the bombast looks more
> and more like a zero sum gain and in economics that is
> a collapse.
>   I think it would be easier to use existing housing
> and businesses. However it might be a great idea to
> convince all the yuppie scum to go on long sea
> cruises, say during hurricane season?
>    Pass the sea-sick pills?
>    Zen hugs, Joe R!
>          www.geocities.com/jos_reyn
>
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