[Hpn] [HKU] Re: housing reality

UTB crew <nhutbp2001@yahoo.com> HKU@yahoogroups.com
Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:38:03 +0000

I either have to write slower or learn to use the spell checker 
before I send this stuff out. sorry

I can spell I just cant type.

--- In HKU@yahoogroups.com, "UTB crew <nhutbp2001@y...>" 
<nhutbp2001@y...> wrote:
> Thank you for your replies. I'm feeling a little burn out and 
> (Harmony Minnesota, hum I think tink told me you were in Norway or 
> something.) Minnesota of how I remember those years. My daughter 
> born at the Mayo Clinic. I can totally relate to the tornado story 
> having been out there in the worst wind weather and the deepest and 
> coldest of winters.
> Ginger, I agree about comfort levels in living conditions. I guess 
> have learned to make due with too little for about too long. I once 
> lived on the reservation for a time and we had nothing but a shack. 
> But in those days of keroscene lanterns and cold pumped water, I 
> learned many things about myself and what I could do to survive. 
> probably done it ALL more than you gals as I hit the streets young, 
> and since I have been clean and sober now for about 16 years, I 
> a lot of gratitude just to be alive. But you cant go around shoving 
> this down peoples throats and I suppose that is why I feel bad. 
> Afterall shes a young 24 year old mom and I have about another 25 
> years on her of life experiences. 
> Its funny these days I feel more comfortable aound my homeless 
> brothers and sisters than I do in "normal society" Its funny 
> in college classews and explining to students and professors what 
> school of hard knocks even looks like, at least from my 
> And its funny that I hook myself up to poverty groups  and just now 
> start to get a grip on the real picture of life.  I need to make a 
> conference call on the 20th for the National coalition's grassroots 
> and civil rights organizing project and I'm thinking I dont do 
> to be part of the group, but then I feel like someone has to stay 
> top of things because if there are no watchers then what? 
> Kim, just joined our group, everybody say Hi.
> Kim has been the coordinator of UTB since it started in 1998.
> Shes been hanging out with me, putting up with me through shitty 
> conventions and boring conferences and still likes to hang out.
> She's been around the block a time or two herself and got her 
> from school of hard knocks.
> speaking of that school. I found an internet site that sells a 
> clothing line for school of hard knocks and even a place that will 
> send you a degree for $9.99
> adding to the pile of crap today, I fell on my tail bone in the 
> parking lot tonight, and gave myself whiplash. The pipes froze in 
> laundry room and the guy downstairs shoveled all the water that was 
> in the hall into the parkinglot which in turn froze. Then I hear 
> my daughter, after getting home from a trip to the store that the 
> fire department was here because of the smell of gas in the hall. 
> Turns out the same dumb guy, friend of our landlord, pain in the 
> neighbor had a snowblower inside his apartment and was running it 
> cleaning it or something.
> The fire department had to secure the building and determine our 
> safety from fumes and still no one can get in touch with the 
> landlord, including the fire department.
> Cool huh?!
> hey but my check came in and I am going to pay my rent because it 
> the only place I have to live and its its too damn cold to move 
> the van and certainly my daughter doesnt want to go to a shleter 
> the baby coming in 3 weeks.
> have a good night.
> cindy
> --- In HKU@yahoogroups.com, sher-amie lewis <gingertea61@y...> 
> > 
> > I loved reading this post. It is so well said how we need more 
> gratitude for what we have.  We can save ourselves a lot of 
> exasperation when we find the good side. And it is far more 
> to learn how to survive comfortably as possible in what we do have 
> around us.
> > ginger
> >  "UTB crew <nhutbp2001@y...>" <nhutbp2001@y...> wrote:Today I 
> up to about 20 inches of snow. Spent three hours 
> > shoveling just to get the van out and wondering why I still live 
> > NH 
> > Anyhow, today's events. 
> > We have a new familiy that just moved into our building. Since 
> > moved in we have heard nothing but complaints, statements 
> like, "I'm 
> > on TANF and Section 8 and I'm gonna get this building shut down." 
> The 
> > woman has complaints about her stove, a leak, the fact that the 
> > landlord doesnt shove, neighbors are too noisy for her, she 
> > everyone to get togther and file a restraining order against a 
> > particular man in the buildig because he is loud and on and on. 
> > So I'm outside shoveling and in a bad mood having to haul snow 
> > one lace to another and I am thinking why did the universe place 
> the 
> > family into my building if I am supposed to be some kind of low 
> > income advocate, organizer? What lesson am I suppose to learn? 
> I 
> > am supposed to teach? 
> > Now I am $1100 behind on my rent waiting for a sudent loan check 
> I 
> > can catch up, the snow is too deep for the mail to run, my 
> > is too pregnant to be climbing over snow banks and I just keep 
> > shoveling.
> > 
> > The new neighbor comes outside and walks up to me smoking a butt. 
> No 
> > good morning, no hello she starts in on her complaints. How come 
> the 
> > landlord does have a plow over here? I fell on the steps and I'm 
> > going to call him and tell him to get his ass over here. This 
> > isnt even as deep as Nebraska where I used to live but he should 
> > moving the snow, it will take me forever to get my car out, I 
> > diabetes and I am pregnant I cant be out here doing this shit.
> > 
> > And so it starts. " Are you from Nebraska? How long have you been 
> in 
> > NH? You shouldn't complain so much You are lucky to have housing? 
> > know thousands of people who dont! Then I fed her the statistics 
> and 
> > the problems with slum landlords and the landlord blacklist in NH 
> and 
> > how to make friends rather than isolate herself by making 
> complaints 
> > and how all of us are just trying to hold onto our housing no 
> matter 
> > how shitty it is or what we have to put up with because it is 
> better 
> > than sleeping in a car or under a bridge. I tild her that her 
> > on housing doesnt really give her any special privelge other than 
> her 
> > rent is reduced because even if she complains to housing so much 
> and 
> > they begin to sanction the landlord, or stop payment she can be 
> > evicted for non-payment eventually when she cant afford it on her 
> > own. I told her that because she has a car that the City welfare 
> > department will put her family in a campground rather than a 
> > and imagine what she will have to put up with then.And that no 
> > was going to get together with her to do anything because we all 
> > realize the reality of our situation. 
> > I basically spewed none stop for a hour as I continued to shovel. 
> > told her what homelessness looks like and feels like. From 
> > campgrounds to squats to the car, to doubling up to hanging on or 
> > clinging to wahtever shelter one can find. So the faucet leaks, 
> > least she has water. I lacked compassion for her misery and I 
> > her that she is creating it herself because of her lack of 
> graditude 
> > for housing. 
> > She didnt even have a chance to say a word. Then she quietly left.
> > About an hour later she came up to borrow my shovel and 
> > asked for it. 
> > 
> > I cant help but wonder where Hope has gove to.
> > I cant help but wonder what I taught in that hour of lecture to 
> > I was thinking I was trying to give her survival skills so that 
> > doesnt end up homeless, but somehow in that moment, I think I 
> spewed 
> > all of my frustrations about the world of the haves and have nots
> > I think now as I read my messages from Michael Stoops (NCH) and 
> > others that we arent going to end homelessness because the status 
> quo 
> > of greed wont allow it. No matter ow much hosing gets built where 
> > ever, we will never catch up nor will be be able to afford 
> > So in that survival skills are essential.
> > How to live outside or in autos or abandon buildings.
> > Where to get free food and other basic essentials. How to build 
> > communites amongst ourselves, because we will need each other as 
> > society continues through this great divide.
> > My been there, done that attitude will only carry me so far, in 
> > reality it will be more like going there again, know what it 
> > like, hate it but will survive. 
> > How long can any of us hold on? 
> > 
> > My apoligies not for a life full of frustration, but for 
> > it in such a disruptive manner.
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