[Hpn] confusion

Rod Graham quixote@mts.net
Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:09:02 -0600


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To make my confusion clear:=20

I was and am completely against the war in Vietnam.  It was catastrophic =
in many ways & I believe any war is wrong.  I grew up poor, in group =
homes and foster homes in East Vancouver BC Canada and just about all my =
friends were Asians and I still am angred at the subtle racism going on =
there.  My buddies had a hard time and were constantly critisized for =
all sticking together and being so close knit.  But they did that =
because when you are not fully accepted in society you will form your =
own society.  That happens often with less privileged youth as well.  I =
was in a gang myself.  I know what it is to feel the need for acceptence =
and solidarity.  But when it comes to war and politics... Isn't it a bit =
more complex?

Here the the post modern so called new age world we live in isn't it  a =
bit complex?=20

What would have happened if we hadn't gone to the aid of Europe in 1942? =
 Many people fought agonst U.S. involvement in WW2.  And for good =
reason.  But when must a democracy (And I'm not saying U.S. is the best =
example all the time) when do we step in to aid those who are being =
tortured in their own countries, those who are being oppressed;  womans =
rights being trampled on.  Women are legally beaten to death on the =
street for minor infractions of the fundamentalist laws.

Isn't France and Germany more in need of good relations FOR OIL from =
Iraq?  Isn't U.S. more in need of oil from elsewhere anyway? =20

These are just questions.=20

I really am very progressive and respect academia, professionals and =
activists of all stripes, I really do. =20

Peace to all.  
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<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>To make my =
confusion=20
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<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>I was and am =
completely=20
against the war in Vietnam.&nbsp; It was catastrophic in many ways &amp; =
I=20
believe any war is wrong.&nbsp; I grew up poor, in group homes and =
foster homes=20
in East Vancouver BC Canada and just about all my friends were Asians =
and I=20
still am angred at the subtle racism going on there.&nbsp; My buddies =
had a hard=20
time and were constantly critisized for all sticking together and being =
so close=20
knit.&nbsp; But they did that because when you are not fully accepted in =
society=20
you will form your own society.&nbsp; That happens often with less =
privileged=20
youth as well.&nbsp; I was in a gang myself.&nbsp; I know what it is to =
feel the=20
need for acceptence and solidarity.&nbsp; But when it comes to war=20
and&nbsp;politics...&nbsp;Isn't it a bit more =
complex?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Here&nbsp;the =
the post modern=20
so called new age world we live in isn't it &nbsp;a bit=20
complex?&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>What would have =
happened if=20
we hadn't gone to the aid of Europe in 1942?&nbsp; Many people fought =
agonst=20
U.S. involvement in WW2.&nbsp; And for good reason.&nbsp; But when must =
a=20
democracy (And I'm not saying U.S. is the best example all the =
time)&nbsp;when=20
do we step in&nbsp;to aid those who are being tortured in their own =
countries,=20
those who are being oppressed; &nbsp;womans rights being trampled =
on.&nbsp;=20
Women are legally beaten to death on the street for minor infractions of =
the=20
fundamentalist laws.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Isn't France =
and Germany more=20
in need of good relations FOR OIL from Iraq?&nbsp;&nbsp;Isn't =
U.S.&nbsp;more in=20
need of oil from elsewhere anyway?&nbsp; </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These are just=20
questions.&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>I&nbsp;really =
am very=20
progressive and respect academia, professionals and activists of all =
stripes, I=20
really do.&nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Peace to=20
all.&nbsp;&nbsp;</STRONG></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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