[Hpn] Thousands of Nevadans with mental problems not being ser...
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:11:12 -0700
Didn't mean to take it off list. Just hit reply, didn't type in the
list-address. This will be my last message on the subject to you though.
You sound like you read a lot of a fella named Thomas Szaz.
I do not define recovery in the way you do. Recovery is A) defined by
people who recover (nothing about us without us) and B) defined by an
observable absence of symptoms and to an extent, of problems in living.
Recovery is a buzz word. It is in use by the psychiatric establishment.
I'm not referring to that establishment in my statements on recovery. La
cultura cura--and this fact has been proved over and over again, not by
psychiatric establishment but by medical anthropologists. The rate of
the symptom collection of schizophrenia and bipolar affective disease is
consistent, worldwide. The recovery rate is not. Recovery is more often
found in cultures which have a place within them for people with these
symptom collections, primarily, Africa and a few other places. Where
people whom have mental illness are sometimes venerated....but certainly
are not kicked to the curb without assistance.
And yes, the meds aint great. But I have had the priviledge of working
with folks, mostly homeless people with schizophrenia and they had lives
of fear and pain, experiencing terrifying hallucinations, unable to do
much more than live in very rough circumstances who, having made the
decision to take the medications and having had a good response have a
better life. When you can talk to people again.....and love and be
loved, well, there is some value in that.
You don't have to accept societies stigma and believe you are sick to
realize that medication may help you. And, it may. It won't do the whole
trick though...will and desire help and are necessary.
There have been a number of brain imaging studies, fairly recent work,
which show specific neurochemical differences int he brains of people
with chronic schizophrenia. Same for bipolar disorder. These difference
pretty clearly affect information processing in the brain. There are
pathological abnormalities.....and it runs in the family, to an extent.
Have you read the twin studies?
Aah, yes, but you have decided there isn't any proof and as far as you
are concerned, there never will be any proof. You have closed yourself
off, blocked your ears. Only an open mind can continue to learn. Perhaps
the proof you want is in front of you.....but you have decided it does
not exist, and therefore, it does not.
I detect an intolerance in your response. An unwillingness to hear
(read) what I have written, truly, and to understand it for what it is.
I do not agree with forcing people to take medications. I do not do it.
I have some clients though, who repeatedly play in traffic because the
voices they hear in their heads tell them to do so or tell them they are
bad, and should die. Sometimes they are taken to the hospital because of
this, and sometimes they are given medications. It is not good. Should
we let them die? It is easy to write 'against' but hard to write 'for',
to prescribe a course of action. Others that I work with run in the
streets naked, and cannot accept the housing we have to offer. Cannot,
sometimes, remember where it is, cannot, sometimes, stop from screaming
in the night so that their neighbors become upset, cannot refrain from
creating of their living space a mass of papers and feces and old food
such that it is a hazard, cannot refrain from lighting the bed on fire.
What shall we do?
Because my life is about building connections and not breaking them,
because it is about dialogue and not flame, I don't think I will
continue to respond to you on this topic. But I have given you my
thoughts, and in a public forum, and that is my gift to you, today, tonight.
work for peace, live for justice.