[Hpn] [Fwd: Re: [Hpn] A crime against the people is a crime reguaardless of fiscal ability.] fiscal ability.]

unclescam unclescam@buskers.org
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:41:55 -0500

   if i'm starving and steal a potato from the field, i deserve to go to
this is a christian concept. no wonder i'm an athiest.
i understand the needs of a provider to maintain security, you have
something to lose.i understand freedom, i have nothing. you can't help
me with security, but i can help you when you're free. as a houseless
person i too am part of the system, or the church would have no good
works to crow about.it won't get em into heaven.
   thank you for your good works

john macpherson wrote:

> True;  that is why I said a lesser charge and it
> offers the man greater time and opportunity to do the
> right things. It also gets the man into the system
> where he can get the assistance he needs to deliver
> him from his situation. It was not with malice or
> getting even that I made my suggestion. It was to show
> the people that it would not continue without some
> consequences and that the player would be assisted.
> That is the function of our community court.
> I run the greater part of our freeze shelter program
> in Austin I have only once had to get the PD involved
> and that was in a uncalled for assault between clients
> where he posed possible threat of continued violent
> behavior.  I have every night had to carefully watch
> one party and never had to watch the same party twice.
>  Every night I must repeat the rules of the church and
> my policies, I never refused anyone shelter and most
> of the time we have double capasity. Occasionaly I
> must separate or isolate some one for being temporally
> out of control due to drugs or alcohol use and have
> been advised to have him leave by other patrons and
> church leaders.  I have refused this directive and
> advised the others what they would like for me to do
> if they were in that condition.
> --- unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> >
> >     what would christ, in a christian church, have
> > done,? the pastor
> > should have invited the man to stay another night
> > and fed him, and
> > brought him to the lord. we're talking about a crime
> > against property
> > (80 % of all laws protect property not people)
> > owned in trust with god.
> > would god begrudge any soul a part of his wealth ?
> > be nice now
> > scam
> >
> >
> > john macpherson wrote:
> >
> > > The pastor in the case of a man breaking a window
> > > should dismiss all the charges for a lesser
> > offense of
> > > trespass or criminal mischief and time served.
> > >
> > > For a person to break a window to gain access is a
> > > crime against all, let alone steal money and a
> > candy
> > > bar from a self serve office vender. This man knew
> > > what he did was wrong.
> > >
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