[HPN] [Fwd: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic ofCambridge]

Bill Tinker wtinker@fcgnetworks.net
Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:42:31 -0400


Hey Tom C,
I guess uncle scam has finally lost his direction must be the sounding out
you gave him,now he is using private messages to inflat his ego,I think he
should have asked me and you if he wanted to go public ...
I don,t save my messages I delete them or keep a thread going untill some
one else jumps in if its worth while.
You have a good day unclescam since you are a homeless advocate I am
inviting you to our online meeting at our chat room
http://www.egroups.com/members/nhhomeless  click on url look to your left
you will see chat click on to that it will take you to meeting OK?
A Brother In Peace And In Strife
                        Bill



----- Original Message -----
From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 11:19 PM
Subject: [HPN] [Fwd: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic
ofCambridge]


>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of Cambridge
> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:17:03 -0400
> From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> Reply-To: unclescam@buskers.org
> To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> References: <004701bfa66b$83e074e0$cb56d2d0@wtinker>
> <38F7B196.47EDAEA6@buskers.org> <003301bfa673$eac51e60$a855d2d0@wtinker>
> <38F7CB15.8DE771ED@buskers.org> <002001bfa67f$562843c0$a855d2d0@wtinker>
> <38F7D247.2ED3A89D@buskers.org> <006201bfa683$76f111a0$a855d2d0@wtinker>
>
> bill, once again you
> revert to the calling of names again.. nazi to twister,  but refuse to
open
> your mind. your sweet lady did not raise my ire, but my sense of
> propriety. we
> were asked to use the name as a constant. see list rules, and i asked
> that that
> be done. i have often put my web site on the list so that people could
> understand where unclescam came from. is your name really bill? how
> would i
> know? .i did think at the time that she had used my birth name to
> undermine the
> points made, by myself, in contrary response to her  statements. this
attempt
> to discredit points is often used when there is no  counter response..
>    as to being ideologically diased i will testify that i am not.  i am
cross
> referenced with a touch of divinity, and humanity based. i pander to none.
>    i will apologise for a streak of  not pulling punches meanness.
> i don't hide behind it , my face is in the public. you saw it and
> ducked. next
> time you come into my home it would be nice if you introduced yourself.
> i'll be
> in brattle square til october.
> come with an open mind.
>
> Bill Tinker wrote:
>
> > Sorry you are a twisterof words,some one whom loves to argue for
arguements
> > sake,I have partied with the best and have now attempted to after years
of
> > abuse of my body and drugs come back to tell you,and  the real world is
a
> > trip but you have to know what you are actually fighting for and you
appear
> > ready to join the "black maria" gang awfully fast your mind set is
> > fatelistic with a smattering of  socialism,I earned my check from being
> > carved up about four times I also do not sit back and bitch! I told you
we
> > would be there and we were very visible you never came up to any body
and
> > introduced yourself at all you are hidding all right as Linda Morgan
> > linda_m59_2000@yahoo.com  exposed your nocturnal side as she found out
your
> > real name and you did not like it ...Remember ????
> > We may be a close knit group but I am certain you would find if you
joined
> > nh-adapt@juno.com or NHHomeless@egroups.com that we all have individual
> > ideas!
> > OK you have a really great night and if you are ever in NH stop by OK?
> > A Brother
> > Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
Cambridge
> >
> > > i'm in the square every day . i been around the world in the
trenches.. no
> > > hidin no closed mind. come out o your drugged existance, give up your
> > > government check, stop using your dis/inability as a crutch, and join
the
> > real
> > > world. ya figured out how to get a free ride, now use that to open
your
> > mind..
> > > i'm on the front line, bill, not in the sticks shouting nazi at free
> > choice. i
> > > never hid behind a bottle or depression or a ladies skirts. stand up
and
> > shout
> > > and speak the truth not the fears.
> > >
> > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Want to donate your body to this humanitarian?Jack Kevrokian?
> > > > Please make sense I got Zolofts,Paxill,Trazadone, Vicadin 5/500,What
you
> > > > need to come back from that last trip..LOL
> > > > No Unclescam,or Tom Newell of Cambridge at least I don,t hide behind
a
> > > > alias,I am right out front,by the way did you run a virus check on
your
> > > > computer?
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > > > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> > Cambridge
> > > >
> > > > > no attack bill,
> > > > >   questions to open a closed mind. as to me gettin off the planet,
all
> > i
> > > > want
> > > > > is the free choice, when and where. as it stands opening your mind
> > should
> > > > keep
> > > > > me goin. dr jack is a hero to those who got the press..... the
loved
> > ones
> > > > of
> > > > > the free choice life enders. free choice , not the fears of closed
> > minds,
> > > > would
> > > > > go far in ending discrimination.
> > > > >    as for destroyin the ada, nothing could be further from my
goal. i
> > need
> > > > that
> > > > > insular, close minded entity to have a foil.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Unclescam if you worked half as hard towards finding a end to
> > > > homelessness
> > > > > > or an end to social injustices or discrimination as you do
> > instigating
> > > > you
> > > > > > would be a real earth shaking person of some power, run for Prez
I
> > will
> > > > > > start a draft Unclescam movement if you want?
> > > > > > Mellarill  is a male birth control pill by the way ..I saw it
and
> > > > Thorazine
> > > > > > perfected in Waterbury, Vermont VSH in the 1960s...
> > > > > > They killed a lot of people before they perfected it!
> > > > > > The Gleitsman award was still given to a murderer by proxy,hey
if
> > you
> > > > want
> > > > > > off the planet so bad why do you attack the very persons whom
fight
> > for
> > > > your
> > > > > > constitutional rights to remain alive,untill you die or visa
versa?
> > > > > > My self if I really was that disgruntled with the system and
others
> > I
> > > > would
> > > > > > be trying to make changes not destroy the ADA and promote murder
by
> > a
> > > > man
> > > > > > whom is not a hero,he is in reality a sick person whom preyed on
> > > > basically
> > > > > > woman,and might have had a tad bit of necromania,and perhaps a
bit
> > of
> > > > > > necrophilism in his background?
> > > > > > A Brother In The Homeless And Disabled Struggle
> > > > > >                         Bill Tinker
> > > > > > A Brother
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > > > > > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:02 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> > > > Cambridge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > we all are of mixed heritage.why go after lilly whites?
> > > > > > > so shut out the rest and close your mind and accept your
inability
> > to
> > > > > > allow the
> > > > > > > freedom to those not handicapped by weak ethics. you throw
nazi so
> > > > well
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > must be intimate with it. have it in your heart????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lets see we had a ex nun, a couple pastors,Indians [at least
> > 4],and
> > > > > > > > numerious other persons of mixed heritage...
> > > > > > > > ADAPT is a multi racial non biased group all you need to
join is
> > be
> > > > > > disabled
> > > > > > > > either physically or mentally,so I belive you are beating a
dead
> > > > horse
> > > > > > > > perhaps you should sign up for the Disability Rag called
"The
> > > > Mouth".
> > > > > > > > There are no color lines in disability or handicaps
> > > > > > > > I believe Tom Cagle can better state it..
> > > > > > > > A Brother
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > > > > > > > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:10 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> > > > Cambridge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > bill,
> > > > > > > > >     i understand the concept, it's just that i find the
waste
> > of
> > > > > > energy
> > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > > some thing you don't seem to understand. your
demonstration
> > was
> > > > > > against a
> > > > > > > > > concept of personal freedom i hold to be prime. the same
> > freedom
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > desire, a
> > > > > > > > > personal decision on my life's direction.
> > > > > > > > >    you want to throw nazi around as if there was some
> > > > organizational
> > > > > > > > decision
> > > > > > > > > made to kill you. not part of the equation. this was an
> > individual
> > > > > > seeking
> > > > > > > > > from an individual the answer to individual freedom. the
state
> > > > refused
> > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > surcease and they were forced to seek thier freedom
outside
> > the
> > > > bounds
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > civil society.. you were demonstrating against the
personal
> > > > freedom to
> > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > choice.
> > > > > > > > >     the same choice my daughters have on whether to have a
> > child
> > > > or
> > > > > > not.
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > choice to smoke hemp or do psychotropics or mellerill or
eat
> > fatty
> > > > > > foods
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > breathe city air or drive too fast on a lonely country
road.
> > this
> > > > you
> > > > > > seem
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > want to deny me.
> > > > > > > > >    now i can understand the fears of the weakened that the
> > state
> > > > will
> > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > for them. in this case dr. jack was acting in the cause of
> > > > personal
> > > > > > > > decision
> > > > > > > > > making. not the state saying live with your particular
pain so
> > we
> > > > can
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > money from your continued life. but a man who appreciated
the
> > > > agony of
> > > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > > folks and respected thier personal decision to deal with
thier
> > > > lives
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > thier
> > > > > > > > > own way.
> > > > > > > > >    as is often the case  one can simplify a difficulty by
> > blaming
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > messenger. one can call nazi or commie or republican to
ease
> > thier
> > > > > > > > confusion.
> > > > > > > > > simple. easy. not reality.!! act now , call for a way to
allow
> > > > folks
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > rule
> > > > > > > > > thier own lives. as we have a right to choose the bearing
of
> > > > children
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > as a personal choice, let us decide, on a personal basis,
life
> > or
> > > > > > death
> > > > > > > > > without criminalization.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >   one more point, i saw no ethnics in your group so the
> > calling of
> > > > > > white
> > > > > > > > elite
> > > > > > > > > described your own group as well. seems like the pot
calling
> > the
> > > > > > kettle.
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > all looked white to me or was there the token ethnic to
> > balance it
> > > > > > that i
> > > > > > > > > didn't see til the cameras showed up.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Cagle <nh-adapt@juno.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <NH_ADAPT@onelist.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: <MDaemon@homebase.grava.org>;
<nhhomeless@egroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> > Cambridge
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Cagle <nh-adapt@juno.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Local actions are the most troubling of things to do.
If
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > spent
> > > > > > > > > > > any time nurturing local activist's, you have some
idea of
> > > > just
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > precious and few they really are.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The eager cannot be spent before their time, the timid
> > need to
> > > > > > find
> > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > comfort and courage. All need to find a constructive
way
> > to
> > > > walk
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > curb, stop traffic and make their statement known to
the
> > > > public at
> > > > > > > > large.
> > > > > > > > > > > In terms small enough to fit in a sound bite.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > While I see beauty in each face that shone that night
much
> > of
> > > > what
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > > > was not obvious to some of there new faces. A little
part
> > of
> > > > > > Camelot
> > > > > > > > fell
> > > > > > > > > > > off.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The Gleitsman award is or was connected to the Kennedy
> > school
> > > > of
> > > > > > law,
> > > > > > > > > > > they pulled their endorsement. The new cast of the W's
> > > > (worried
> > > > > > white
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > well-to-do) got to slink to their awards dinner up the
> > back
> > > > > > elevators
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > past us with their briefcases held up against their
heads
> > to
> > > > ward
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > glare rather like a celebrity  attending a first
subpoena.
> > > > Last
> > > > > > nights
> > > > > > > > > > > dinner was pretty cold shoulder for the people who
would
> > have
> > > > us
> > > > > > die
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > that they can celebrate their odd aversion, er,
> > compassion.
> > > > > > Getting
> > > > > > > > close
> > > > > > > > > > > enough to smell us was possibly worth the effort as
out
> > > > numbers
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > in the hundreds, but this lilly-white effete crowd got
> > closer
> > > > to
> > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > they wanted.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 30 people came in the cold of a march day to watch
Camelot
> > go.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Tom C
> > > > > > > > > > >
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