[HPN] [Fwd: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of Cambridge]

unclescam unclescam@buskers.org
Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:19:36 -0400


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of Cambridge
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:17:03 -0400
From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
Reply-To: unclescam@buskers.org
To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
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bill, once again you
revert to the calling of names again.. nazi to twister,  but refuse to open
your mind. your sweet lady did not raise my ire, but my sense of
propriety. we
were asked to use the name as a constant. see list rules, and i asked
that that
be done. i have often put my web site on the list so that people could
understand where unclescam came from. is your name really bill? how
would i
know? .i did think at the time that she had used my birth name to
undermine the
points made, by myself, in contrary response to her  statements. this attempt
to discredit points is often used when there is no  counter response..
   as to being ideologically diased i will testify that i am not.  i am cross
referenced with a touch of divinity, and humanity based. i pander to none.
   i will apologise for a streak of  not pulling punches meanness.
i don't hide behind it , my face is in the public. you saw it and
ducked. next
time you come into my home it would be nice if you introduced yourself.
i'll be
in brattle square til october.
come with an open mind.

Bill Tinker wrote:

> Sorry you are a twisterof words,some one whom loves to argue for arguements
> sake,I have partied with the best and have now attempted to after years of
> abuse of my body and drugs come back to tell you,and  the real world is a
> trip but you have to know what you are actually fighting for and you appear
> ready to join the "black maria" gang awfully fast your mind set is
> fatelistic with a smattering of  socialism,I earned my check from being
> carved up about four times I also do not sit back and bitch! I told you we
> would be there and we were very visible you never came up to any body and
> introduced yourself at all you are hidding all right as Linda Morgan
> linda_m59_2000@yahoo.com  exposed your nocturnal side as she found out your
> real name and you did not like it ...Remember ????
> Linda is my fiancee,she was riding the little Chauffuer scooter with the
> yellow flag on it!
> We may be a close knit group but I am certain you would find if you joined
> nh-adapt@juno.com or NHHomeless@egroups.com that we all have individual
> ideas!
> OK you have a really great night and if you are ever in NH stop by OK?
> A Brother
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of Cambridge
>
> > i'm in the square every day . i been around the world in the trenches.. no
> > hidin no closed mind. come out o your drugged existance, give up your
> > government check, stop using your dis/inability as a crutch, and join the
> real
> > world. ya figured out how to get a free ride, now use that to open your
> mind..
> > i'm on the front line, bill, not in the sticks shouting nazi at free
> choice. i
> > never hid behind a bottle or depression or a ladies skirts. stand up and
> shout
> > and speak the truth not the fears.
> >
> > Bill Tinker wrote:
> >
> > > Want to donate your body to this humanitarian?Jack Kevrokian?
> > > Please make sense I got Zolofts,Paxill,Trazadone, Vicadin 5/500,What you
> > > need to come back from that last trip..LOL
> > > No Unclescam,or Tom Newell of Cambridge at least i don,t hide behind a
> > > alias,I am right out front,by the way did you run a virus check on your
> > > computer?
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> Cambridge
> > >
> > > > no attack bill,
> > > >   questions to open a closed mind. as to me gettin off the planet, all
> i
> > > want
> > > > is the free choice, when and where. as it stands opening your mind
> should
> > > keep
> > > > me goin. dr jack is a hero to those who got the press..... the loved
> ones
> > > of
> > > > the free choice life enders. free choice , not the fears of closed
> minds,
> > > would
> > > > go far in ending discrimination.
> > > >    as for destroyin the ada, nothing could be further from my goal. i
> need
> > > that
> > > > insular, close minded entity to have a foil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Unclescam if you worked half as hard towards finding a end to
> > > homelessness
> > > > > or an end to social injustices or discrimination as you do
> instigating
> > > you
> > > > > would be a real earth shaking person of some power, run for Prez I
> will
> > > > > start a draft Unclescam movement if you want?
> > > > > Mellarill  is a male birth control pill by the way ..I saw it and
> > > Thorazine
> > > > > perfected in Waterbury, Vermont VSH in the 1960s...
> > > > > They killed a lot of people before they perfected it!
> > > > > The Gleitsman award was still given to a murderer by proxy,hey if
> you
> > > want
> > > > > off the planet so bad why do you attack the very persons whom fight
> for
> > > your
> > > > > constitutional rights to remain alive,untill you die or visa versa?
> > > > > My self if I really was that disgruntled with the system and others
> I
> > > would
> > > > > be trying to make changes not destroy the ADA and promote murder by
> a
> > > man
> > > > > whom is not a hero,he is in reality a sick person whom preyed on
> > > basically
> > > > > woman,and might have had a tad bit of necromania,and perhaps a bit
> of
> > > > > necrophilism in his background?
> > > > > A Brother In The Homeless And Disabled Struggle
> > > > >                         Bill Tinker
> > > > > A Brother
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > > > > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:02 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> > > Cambridge
> > > > >
> > > > > > we all are of mixed heritage.why go after lilly whites?
> > > > > > so shut out the rest and close your mind and accept your inability
> to
> > > > > allow the
> > > > > > freedom to those not handicapped by weak ethics. you throw nazi so
> > > well
> > > > > you
> > > > > > must be intimate with it. have it in your heart????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lets see we had a ex nun, a couple pastors,Indians [at least
> 4],and
> > > > > > > numerious other persons of mixed heritage...
> > > > > > > ADAPT is a multi racial non biased group all you need to join is
> be
> > > > > disabled
> > > > > > > either physically or mentally,so I belive you are beating a dead
> > > horse
> > > > > > > perhaps you should sign up for the Disability Rag called "The
> > > Mouth".
> > > > > > > There are no color lines in disability or handicaps
> > > > > > > I believe Tom Cagle can better state it..
> > > > > > > A Brother
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: unclescam <unclescam@buskers.org>
> > > > > > > To: Bill Tinker <wtinker@fcgnetworks.net>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:10 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fw: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> > > Cambridge
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > bill,
> > > > > > > >     i understand the concept, it's just that i find the waste
> of
> > > > > energy
> > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > some thing you don't seem to understand. your demonstration
> was
> > > > > against a
> > > > > > > > concept of personal freedom i hold to be prime. the same
> freedom
> > > you
> > > > > > > desire, a
> > > > > > > > personal decision on my life's direction.
> > > > > > > >    you want to throw nazi around as if there was some
> > > organizational
> > > > > > > decision
> > > > > > > > made to kill you. not part of the equation. this was an
> individual
> > > > > seeking
> > > > > > > > from an individual the answer to individual freedom. the state
> > > refused
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > surcease and they were forced to seek thier freedom outside
> the
> > > bounds
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > civil society.. you were demonstrating against the personal
> > > freedom to
> > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > choice.
> > > > > > > >     the same choice my daughters have on whether to have a
> child
> > > or
> > > > > not.
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > choice to smoke hemp or do psychotropics or mellerill or eat
> fatty
> > > > > foods
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > breathe city air or drive too fast on a lonely country road.
> this
> > > you
> > > > > seem
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > want to deny me.
> > > > > > > >    now i can understand the fears of the weakened that the
> state
> > > will
> > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > for them. in this case dr. jack was acting in the cause of
> > > personal
> > > > > > > decision
> > > > > > > > making. not the state saying live with your particular pain so
> we
> > > can
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > > money from your continued life. but a man who appreciated the
> > > agony of
> > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > folks and respected thier personal decision to deal with thier
> > > lives
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > thier
> > > > > > > > own way.
> > > > > > > >    as is often the case  one can simplify a difficulty by
> blaming
> > > the
> > > > > > > > messenger. one can call nazi or commie or republican to ease
> thier
> > > > > > > confusion.
> > > > > > > > simple. easy. not reality.!! act now , call for a way to allow
> > > folks
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > rule
> > > > > > > > thier own lives. as we have a right to choose the bearing of
> > > children
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > as a personal choice, let us decide, on a personal basis, life
> or
> > > > > death
> > > > > > > > without criminalization.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   one more point, i saw no ethnics in your group so the
> calling of
> > > > > white
> > > > > > > elite
> > > > > > > > described your own group as well. seems like the pot calling
> the
> > > > > kettle.
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > all looked white to me or was there the token ethnic to
> balance it
> > > > > that i
> > > > > > > > didn't see til the cameras showed up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill Tinker wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Cagle <nh-adapt@juno.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: <NH_ADAPT@onelist.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: <MDaemon@homebase.grava.org>; <nhhomeless@egroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [NH_ADAPT] A nights work in the Republic of
> Cambridge
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Cagle <nh-adapt@juno.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Local actions are the most troubling of things to do. If
> you
> > > have
> > > > > > > spent
> > > > > > > > > > any time nurturing local activist's, you have some idea of
> > > just
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > precious and few they really are.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The eager cannot be spent before their time, the timid
> need to
> > > > > find
> > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > comfort and courage. All need to find a constructive way
> to
> > > walk
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > curb, stop traffic and make their statement known to the
> > > public at
> > > > > > > large.
> > > > > > > > > > In terms small enough to fit in a sound bite.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > While I see beauty in each face that shone that night much
> of
> > > what
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > > was not obvious to some of there new faces. A little part
> of
> > > > > Camelot
> > > > > > > fell
> > > > > > > > > > off.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The Gleitsman award is or was connected to the Kennedy
> school
> > > of
> > > > > law,
> > > > > > > > > > they pulled their endorsement. The new cast of the W's
> > > (worried
> > > > > white
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > well-to-do) got to slink to their awards dinner up the
> back
> > > > > elevators
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > past us with their briefcases held up against their heads
> to
> > > ward
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > glare rather like a celebrity  attending a first subpoena.
> > > Last
> > > > > nights
> > > > > > > > > > dinner was pretty cold shoulder for the people who would
> have
> > > us
> > > > > die
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > that they can celebrate their odd aversion, er,
> compassion.
> > > > > Getting
> > > > > > > close
> > > > > > > > > > enough to smell us was possibly worth the effort as out
> > > numbers
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > in the hundreds, but this lilly-white effete crowd got
> closer
> > > to
> > > > > us
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > they wanted.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 30 people came in the cold of a march day to watch Camelot
> go.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Tom C
> > > > > > > > > >
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